Are You Saved Only After All You Can Do?
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, 05-14-2018 at 07:21 PM (39166 Views)
Mormons Claim Most People are Saved and
Most People Will Do Temple Works to be Saved
Enduring to the end does not mean if you don't endure to the end you won't be saved. Rather, it means you will lose the reward of returning with Christ to reign during the millennial kingdom on earth in Revelation 20. It is the time of recompense. After the millennial kingdom rewards are done away with. You can't work your way to higher or lower heavens as Mormons teach. That would not be grace. Grace is not after all you can do, but in spite of all you try to do.
Also, the Mormon said if there are no works you go to Hell. Whereas Christians and the Bible teach if you are save and do no works you still go to Heaven. No Christian goes to Hell. All Christians go to Heaven. All Mormons go to Hell.
A person who is has never heard of Christ if he accepted the God of the mountains and stars surely he would accept Christ and be saved. This is common grace leading to special grace of the gospel. Muslims and Mormons and Roman Catholics and Buddhists and Atheists already reject Jesus, because they already accept their false gods and beliefs. Common grace has already come upon them that they reject. Someone on a remote island who accepts the God of the mountains and stars surely would be saved because He would accept Christ. If you accept the Father surely you would accept the Son. No other name under heaven by which one can be saved.
Gehenna is Hell. Outer darkness is not Hell. Outer darkness is that place outside the light of reward of reigning with Christ during the millennium. It's like being in a dark forest but the cabin is like the millennial reign. When they come out of the cabin then those in the forest can come out to go to the New City and New Earth. Or it is light painting a house but getting paint all over yourself because you are sloppy. Washing the paint off with gasoline stings; this is like outer darkness before you can enter the shower and marriage feast. If you were careful outer darkness would not be needed.
Baptism doesn't save anyone. It is merely a symbol dying to the world after getting saved going down into the water, and coming up symbolizing resurrection, and coming out of the world. It is the sense we no longer belong to the world as we come up out of the water with newness of life. It is a sense within oneself this is their experience and can be acted out through water baptism and lets others know you are a member of the body of Christ. For example, I would never get baptized in a Mormon temple or church. If you were in a place that had no water would you go to Hell? Of course not.
In large part Mormonism is twisted system that tries to make sense of those who have never heard the gospel, but they go to far in their analysis. That's why they say Muslims and Atheists and others are saved.
The tokens that Mormons must acquire is like the computer gaming industry where tokens are collected and charged for to make higher levels like in Scientology. None of this is the case for Christianity. In order to get into heaven, in Mormonism various temple works, sacrifices, praying for the dead, hand shakes, other signs, etc. must be done otherwise you can't be in God's presence. Whereas in Christianity none of this is needed to get into God's presence. For salvation is not by works lest anyone should boast.
So the Mormon said only Mormons can get into heaven. The Muslim will have to be a Mormon to get into Heaven. The Mormon says "Only we have the authority." Mormons had no authority for 18 centuries and still don't. The Mormon is looking to the future. In the future the Mormon is saying this Muslim or that Scientologist or that Hindu could get saved by doing the Mormon temple works. Mormons believe most people are going to be saved because they believe their version of Hell not that many will go to Hell. That's making the assumption that eventually most people will go through to do the Mormon temple works. This is the "great assumption" of Mormonism. It's like the great "assumption" of the Roman Catholic Church that Mary would remain a virgin and go to Heaven immediately when she died.
"Different ministries" does not mean different denominations. The Bible is against denominations. It says don't say "I of Cephas" or "I of Apollos." Ministries are different works; some have the gift of healing, others the gift of tongues, others the gift of teaching. Some are Apostles, others are Elders.
When Jesus said He never knew you to those who said Lord, Lord, He was speaking to believers, so what He is saying is those who remain carnal fleshly believers will not receive the reward of returning with Christ to reign during the millennium. It is not saying saved people are going to Hell, nor is referring to unsaved people going to Hell. Of course all unsaved people are going to Hell and most people are unsaved.
In Matt. 25 the sheep and the goats does not refer to individual salvation. It refers to good and bad nations at the end of this age when Jesus returns to judge and reign in the millennial kingdom from the 3rd Temple.
Absent from the body, present with the Lord does not negate the intermediate state in 1 Thess. 4.14-18 where people are only resurrected together at the end of this age who are presently asleep. You can't come before the High Priest naked without a body so there is no bodiless party going on in Heaven right now. This is speaking to Christians...the narrow gate refers to the outer man and the narrow path refers to the innerman. A wide gate indicates the outerman is careless outwardly. The wide path is a spirit that is indulgent; a narrow path is a spirit not just with the Holy Spirit indwelling, but infused with and infilled with the Spirit of Power and sensitive.
The Mormon said the ordinances of the law must be followed to be saved. Whereas the Bible says they were nailed to the cross when Jesus died. No works can save you. That's the point the Mormon fails to understand. Salvation is not by works lest anyone should boast. You are not saved after all you can do (that is a Mormon heresy); nothing you can do can save apart from the precursor of repentance and faith to receive regeneration.