Where does the bible say that god did not place men and women or other beings of his choice on other worlds?
Where does the bible say that god did not place men and women or other beings of his choice on other worlds?
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"And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven" (Deut. 4.19). The Bible says, "And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so" (Gen. 1.15), not "and for other members of God's creation to inhabit other planets". It's not even an issue there could be life on other planets. As Hugh Ross says, there are 800 variables needed for life on another planet, and there simply is not enough planets in the universe to make life possible on another planet. There simply has not been enough interatomic actions in the history of the universe even to produce one protein molecule of at least 200 amino acids, let alone 1000 needed to create the simplest replicating life form. Understand that the reason why there are so many stars and planets in the universe is because there needs to be that many to produce the full elemental table. And when the New City changes into 1379 x 1379 x 1379 with walls 216 feet thick we whom are saved will go out to explore God's amazing creation, but not to visit aliens, since there is none, but to see all the amazing worlds out there. To explore! To go where no man has gone before!Originally Posted by Mystermenace
Well, that doesn't even come close to actually addressing the question I asked. I expected as much.
To respond to your current irrelevance:
Do you think that god told you the sum total of his existence, everything that he knows and that he has ever done, in one book?
Do you think that we are the only purpose and function god has in his existence?
Is Hugh Ross saying that god is not capable of making life possible on another planet?
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I'm glad you can't show it.
It will always be true that there are some things we won't know and that's ok.To respond to your current irrelevance:
Do you think that god told you the sum total of his existence, everything that he knows and that he has ever done, in one book?
We are His main purpose.Do you think that we are the only purpose and function god has in his existence?
"All who claim me as their God will come, for I have made them for my glory. It was I who created them" (Is. 43.7).
"Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not" (1 John 3.1).
"And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren" (Rom. 8.28,29).
"God chose him for this purpose long before the world began, but now in these final days, he was sent to the earth for all to see. And he did this for you" (1 Pet. 1.20).
"According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved" (Eph. 1.4-6).
"Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus" (Col. 1.28).
"But ye are a chosen...royal priesthood...that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light" (1 Pet. 2.9).
"And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence" (Col. 1.18).
"When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory" (Col. 3.4).
"Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ" (Eph. 3.8-9).
God can't be less than perfect. This is a perfect creation. Why accept anything less? Why would you try to do worse on a test or do less than you know you ought to in life?Is Hugh Ross saying that god is not capable of making life possible on another planet?
MAY GOD SHOW YOU HIS GLORY!
We don't know that god has another thousand worlds that he has given the same promises to as he has here on Earth.
A finite world such as ours doesn't amount to more than 0.0000...000% of god's infiniteness. Put about a billion more zeros where those three dots are and it is still too much.
To claim we are god's main purpose would be to bring him down into the finite realm of our world.
And all your biblical citations were irrelevant to the point also.
Why do you say that god can make nothing perfect other than this world? Don' t you believe that god is omnipotent?
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We know life can't exist on another planet because there is not enough interatomic interactions in the history of the universe and because Hugh Ross has taken 800 variables required for life, and there is no enough planets in the universe to make it possible. Even if there was life on another planet or another universe, it really doesn't change the fact the ultimate cause needs be uncaused with a mind.
Indeed.A finite world such as ours doesn't amount to more than 0.0000...000% of god's infiniteness. Put about a billion more zeros where those three dots are and it is still too much.
Not at all. First he created the angels and 1/3 fell away which was an eternal choice without redemption, and they knew it. So God created man who was redeemable after the fall, but only a small fraction of souls will be saved, because the vast majority are like those fallen angels who want to be eternally separated from God. How vain though since God is in control of all worlds and all dimensions. There is no escaping His design.To claim we are god's main purpose would be to bring him down into the finite realm of our world.
We are His perfect creation. Nobody knows all the things He has planned for us, and He loves us so much that He gave His only begotten to Son to pay for the sons to be the perfect and necessary ransom to meet His justice and love.
I am glad you couldn't show it.And all your biblical citations were irrelevant to the point also.
"Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not" (1 John 3.1).
The Bible say you don't know me, you can't, because your spirit is dead to God. You're as cold as ice.
"All who claim me as their God will come, for I have made them for my glory. It was I who created them" (Is. 43.7).
Christians are for His glory. He calls the most beautiful thing on earth, the pearl of great price, the Church body of Christ. If you can't sense this, just know you have a conscience that is millions of miles away from one that is regenerated and quickened with God's life for His Holy Spirit to indwell.
God is omnipotent, but He can't violate His righteousness. It would be evil of God to create a world ensemble less than this one. And He can't create one better than this one because this is the best.Why do you say that god can make nothing perfect other than this world? Don' t you believe that god is omnipotent?
I claim that you don't know all the things he has planned for the rest of the universe either.
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That's nice but not sure how that helps you deal with your never ending problem that you still can't find a naturalistic explanation for the origin of the disciples' beliefs, and your timeless spaceless imaginary cause for the universe from nothing has no mind as God does, so God trumps your idol since a mind is needed to create a mind.
Everyday a million and one people believe things that are false. A million of them don't blame it on god. When they figure it out, they blame it on being wrong.
"a mind is needed to create a mind" is a quaint claim, but without any reasoning to support it, it doesn't hold much sway.
You like to quote the bible as rebuttal. You should stick to what the bible says and not what you want it to say. Otherwise, someone has to decide what the biblical words will mean when some biblical words are needed, and then you have a cult, not a religion.
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God never asked you to blame him. How silly. The fact that people are wrong all the time does not address your problem you still can't find a naturalistic explanation for the origin of the disciples' beliefs.
The reasoning for why a mind is needed to create a mind is because the lesser can never produce the greater. This has been said so many times. I think you deserve an infraction for wanting a reason when it was already given.
Again, you are accusing but where is the evidence to support your accusation as valid? You've not shown where I am not in concordance with the Bible. When I accuse I give a reason, but you do not. You're like Satan the great accuser who also doesn't need a reason. You take after your father the Devil. A chip off the old block.
Quoting the Bible is good since the proof is in the Bible, the very proof you are unable to overturn. Praise the Lord!
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