Churchwork
05-01-2006, 05:54 PM
How can we lead a calvinist to Christ? It's not so easy because they are not ready to believe, and even if they are saved, they are still fleshly Christians which they may wish to remain for the rest of their lives, and there is nothing you can do to convince them, because that is their choice. They would be convincted, but even still they may refuse the truth. This is considered possession of the Christian.
I have found that little works in the unsaved calvinist because they have a conscience which they can't sense is wrong to assume that they have to be premade for salvation. Alas, they can't even sense this is the false teaching that stems from the mistaken assumption of total depravity. Even further, they can not sense they are really pelagian denying the original sin which is to say, they don't recognize in their spirit that original sin does not stop man from being in His image to come to salvation God has provided as God draws and calls.
It's like a top 10 tennis player trying to show someone who is playing in the C Division how to handle the ball in an advanced way. There is some things the C player simply can not do yet because they lack prior foundation needed. That lack of foundation in calvinism is removing the idea that 1) the fall causes damage to the image of God, and 2) that it makes one totally deprave required to be given faith while others not. God is no respecter of persons (Acts 10.34).
A calvinist will not accept any of these things because there is even something deeper going on. It is possession. There is a stronghold in the mind of a calvinist that may have been entrenched for decades. Such an idea is not so easy to penetrate and release because they have been willing participants in this long-standing decepiton. This is why the only thing that will work is not straight up sensical discussion, but spiritual warfare is needed against principalities and powers that are in the battlelfield of the believer's mind.
If the person is not a Christian, but a tare in the sphere of the kingdom, then the problem is doubly worse because they have come so close to God and they are not even regenerated. A person who had never heard of Christ would be far better off to be saved. I don't envy unsaved calvinists, nor even Christians who are saved who are under calvinism. One powerful way God has provided in His redemptive design to deliver people from calvinism is the dividing of spirit, soul and body (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/SMCFP.htm).
I have found that little works in the unsaved calvinist because they have a conscience which they can't sense is wrong to assume that they have to be premade for salvation. Alas, they can't even sense this is the false teaching that stems from the mistaken assumption of total depravity. Even further, they can not sense they are really pelagian denying the original sin which is to say, they don't recognize in their spirit that original sin does not stop man from being in His image to come to salvation God has provided as God draws and calls.
It's like a top 10 tennis player trying to show someone who is playing in the C Division how to handle the ball in an advanced way. There is some things the C player simply can not do yet because they lack prior foundation needed. That lack of foundation in calvinism is removing the idea that 1) the fall causes damage to the image of God, and 2) that it makes one totally deprave required to be given faith while others not. God is no respecter of persons (Acts 10.34).
A calvinist will not accept any of these things because there is even something deeper going on. It is possession. There is a stronghold in the mind of a calvinist that may have been entrenched for decades. Such an idea is not so easy to penetrate and release because they have been willing participants in this long-standing decepiton. This is why the only thing that will work is not straight up sensical discussion, but spiritual warfare is needed against principalities and powers that are in the battlelfield of the believer's mind.
If the person is not a Christian, but a tare in the sphere of the kingdom, then the problem is doubly worse because they have come so close to God and they are not even regenerated. A person who had never heard of Christ would be far better off to be saved. I don't envy unsaved calvinists, nor even Christians who are saved who are under calvinism. One powerful way God has provided in His redemptive design to deliver people from calvinism is the dividing of spirit, soul and body (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/SMCFP.htm).