Parture
08-16-2016, 03:35 AM
I am an OSAS Arminian Molinist.
God Instantly Knows All This
In proper ordering:
1) Natural knowledge = "what can be"
2) Middle knowledge omniscience = counterfactuals; "world ensembles" or possible worlds; "what can happen in any other possible circumstance"; coherent worlds. Incoherent words can't exist because they are self-contradictory (e.g. just a world of married bachelors). Say a world that Winston Churchill never existed is still "coherent." God knows what would happen under different circumstances. If I wasn't typing this right now, God knows what that world would look like in the decision tree of life. These are not actual words but possible worlds. There is potentially an infinite number of possible worlds. Within these words are "feasible worlds" consistent with what God wants to accomplish. There could be deterministic compatibilism worlds and libertarian worlds, or a combination thereof. God knows all things that could happen but don't - "subjunctive conditionals." Choices of creaturely freedom: if they didn't do something then something else happens or not happens and if they did something else, something else would happen or not happen.
"But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory. Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory" (1 Cor. 2.7,8). Be careful of verses that can just be hyperbole.
3) God's decree = "predestines"
4) God's free knowledge = "what will happen" -- that is, He actualizes it. His sovereignty is preserved since He picks the world that saves the most and damns the least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PScyPxaguc
God is so good at chess He knows every move and can counter any move we make to accomplish his goals and desires. The New City will be reached. There is no stopping God.
Compatibilism says God forces you to do everything with your free will, but this, of course, is self-contradictory. Why doesn't God just force you to freely do the right thing all the time -- CONTRADICTION! It is self-referentially incoherent. This would not be a possible feasible world in God's middle knowledge omniscience. If compatibilism is true then this contradiction pointed out is false and that somehow libertarian free will and determinism are compatible.
Braxton Hunter Destroying Calvinism -- James White is afraid to debate with Braxton Hunter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxKqrcpJmJM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W-aLyw2Ytc
God Instantly Knows All This
In proper ordering:
1) Natural knowledge = "what can be"
2) Middle knowledge omniscience = counterfactuals; "world ensembles" or possible worlds; "what can happen in any other possible circumstance"; coherent worlds. Incoherent words can't exist because they are self-contradictory (e.g. just a world of married bachelors). Say a world that Winston Churchill never existed is still "coherent." God knows what would happen under different circumstances. If I wasn't typing this right now, God knows what that world would look like in the decision tree of life. These are not actual words but possible worlds. There is potentially an infinite number of possible worlds. Within these words are "feasible worlds" consistent with what God wants to accomplish. There could be deterministic compatibilism worlds and libertarian worlds, or a combination thereof. God knows all things that could happen but don't - "subjunctive conditionals." Choices of creaturely freedom: if they didn't do something then something else happens or not happens and if they did something else, something else would happen or not happen.
"But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory. Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory" (1 Cor. 2.7,8). Be careful of verses that can just be hyperbole.
3) God's decree = "predestines"
4) God's free knowledge = "what will happen" -- that is, He actualizes it. His sovereignty is preserved since He picks the world that saves the most and damns the least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PScyPxaguc
God is so good at chess He knows every move and can counter any move we make to accomplish his goals and desires. The New City will be reached. There is no stopping God.
Compatibilism says God forces you to do everything with your free will, but this, of course, is self-contradictory. Why doesn't God just force you to freely do the right thing all the time -- CONTRADICTION! It is self-referentially incoherent. This would not be a possible feasible world in God's middle knowledge omniscience. If compatibilism is true then this contradiction pointed out is false and that somehow libertarian free will and determinism are compatible.
Braxton Hunter Destroying Calvinism -- James White is afraid to debate with Braxton Hunter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxKqrcpJmJM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W-aLyw2Ytc