There are No Planets in the Universe that Can Sustain Life

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Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology

What to you would prove Mormonism false? What if no planet in the universe is habitable? Would that not make Kolob a lie and the Mormon God was never a man on another planet with his higher god of that planet? So Joseph Smith would be a liar following Satan the father of lies. He is also the author of confusion. Christians born-again reject Mormonism for many reasons, because we can't get the Scriptures to agree with you. And the Scriptures were given to stand the test of time.

154 factors needed for life to exist OF ANY KIND on another planet (Hugh Ross has actually compiled 800 variables now). Not enough planets in the universe for this to be possible. There is no planet in the universe that supports all these factors.

http://www.reasons.org/articles/fine-tuning-for-life-on-earth-june-2004

Why shut your mind down to the problem of pre-existing intelligences how it is very much like atheism? You assign a number of intelligent beings to always have existed and before habitating earth. How can you just arbitrarily claim a number of beings existed for all of eternity?

Time and space were created. That would mean before time and space existed none other than God alone from everlasting. God reveals Himself to us as Father, Son and Spirit, One Being of One Substance in 3 Persons, each Person Distinct, but Not Separate, Co-Equal, Co-Inherent and Alone from Everlasting. Jesus brought time and space into existence.

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In Atheism the elements are eternal. Atheists have no need for God because the elements are eternal from the past they claim. They always existed. Mormons put in a God that existed alongside the elements and intelligences that always existed. Call this supernatural atheism which has no need God the uncreated Creator. These intelligences had no beginning as presumably the God of Mormonism had no beginning. How many of them? You can create a new cult depending on how many you arbitrarily assign.

Whereas Christians believe God created out of Himself (not out of nothing) so God brings time and space into being as well as man made in His image with free will.

Mormon Metaphysics teaches...

​Mormon scripture and the teachings of Joseph Smith include a number of details concerning the nature of light, elements, matter, "spirit matter", and intelligence.

According to Mormon scripture, "the elements are eternal".[49] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology#cite_note-49) This means, according to Smith, that the elements are co-existent with God, and "they may be organized and reorganized, but not destroyed. They had not beginning, and can have no end."[50] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology#cite_note-50) This principle was elaborated on by Brigham Young (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigham_Young), who said, "God never made something out of nothing; it is not in the economy or law of which the worlds were, are, or will exist."[51] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology#cite_note-51) Thus, Mormons deny ex nihilo creation and instead believe that God created or "organized" the universe out of pre-existing elements.[52] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology#cite_note-robinson-52)

Along with physical matter, Mormons believe that spirit "intelligences" have existed co-eternally with God.[53] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology#cite_note-53)[54] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology#cite_note-54)

Mormons believe in a universe and a God governed by physical law, in which all miracles, including acts of God, have a natural explanation, though science does not yet have the tools or means necessary to explain them.[55] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology#cite_note-55)

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Mormon,

Hopefully you read this. I am trying to show you why you reject God and why ultimately, you are an Atheist, but you sugar coat it. Mormonism is simply an elaborate method to reject the uncreated Creator where nothing else exists beside Him.

There is no difference between Atheism and Mormonism and that's what Christians recognize about Mormons. These "intelligences" and the "matter" they are made out that allegedly always existed are said to be "improved matter" which is atheistic. Atheists say the same thing. Monotheists say the opposite! Monotheists believe God always existed, in other words, God was alone from everlasting. Out of His prerogative, He brings time and space (the big bang) and man made in His image into being. After 13.8 billion years, God formed from Pre-Adamic men ( that is, they will cease to exist) man made in His image 4004 BC (who has God-consciousness in his spirit and would never cease to exist) by breathing in the Spirit of life into the body, directly creating their spirit, and when man's spirit made contact with the fully formed desired body by God, man became a living soul with a spirit and a body. Man is tripartite. Our body gives us world-consciousness. Our soul gives us self-consciousness, and our spirit gives us world-consciousness. Our body has 5 senses. Our soul gives us mind, will and emotion. And our spirit gives us intuition, communion and conscience. We don't become gods of planets, but pillars of the New City on the New Earth where heaven and earth come together. Read Revelation 21.

Mormon Pre-Mortality states...

Spirit intelligences and God's spirit children[edit (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mormon_cosmology&action=edit&section=14)]

It is believed there were pre-existing "spirit intelligences" that existed before the God the Father and Heavenly Mother created spiritual bodies for them: "self-existing intelligences were organized into individual spirit beings"[56] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology#cite_note-56) by the Heavenly Parents and they became the "begotten sons and daughters of God".[57] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology#cite_note-57) The procreative process whereby the intelligences became spirits has been left unexplained. While spirit bodies are composed of matter, they are described as being "more fine or pure" than regular matter.[58] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology#cite_note-58)

The first-born spirit child of God the Father was Jehovah, whom Latter-day Saints identify as the premortal Jesus.[59] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology#cite_note-59)[60] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology#cite_note-60)[61] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology#cite_note-chaptertwo-61) Jehovah was a God[62] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology#cite_note-62) and was like God the Father in attributes,[63] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology#cite_note-63) but he did not have an immortal physical body like God the Father until his resurrection (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection_appearances_of_Jesus).[64] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology#cite_note-64)