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06-20-2012, 11:58 PM
Re: dzpisx @ YouTube
So He's not the helper of people? I do accept the Jesus who died on the cross for the sins of believers, as the Bible implies. That's why I'm a Calvinist, as Calvin loved the Bible.
So Jesus is only a helper? You mustn't think very highly of Him.
Would the Bible only imply or does it directly say? It is most direct Jesus died on the cross for the sins of the whole world. Your god can't do that. What word can we use to describe his inability? Impotent, incompetent, take your pick.
Do you "accept the Jesus who died on the cross for the sins of believers"? No you don't, because what you mean is that your god irresistibly imposes salvation and is unable to be a ransom for all whosoever is willing. So you just assume you were irresistibly selected. What pride! what love is that? You just don't know God's love.
You have a relationship with evil that sends people to Hell who from birth were preterioned and made reprobate given no opportunity for salvation. If we treated each other that way we would be most guilty. How can God's standards be below our own? Don't you know you worship the Devil masquerading as an angel of light?
Why are you a Calvinist? The reason you are a Calvinist is because you prefer to be in your head than your spirit quickened with God's life. The head can do amazing gymnastics, but it is not real. You see things must have a cause and effect (which is true), so you can't understand how God can give us free will and yet have infinite foreknowledge.
Do you know how God gave you self-consciousness? No, you don't, but you know He did. Likewise, you don't know how God gave you free will, but you know He did. The cause, therefore, of your choices you choose is you, not God. God only supplies you with all available choices in any given scenario, but it is you that must decide and to choose. I too am mesmerized how God can do this, but we know He does it in both our experience and according to the Word of God.
1 Tim. 4.10 proves you are going to Hell, because "God is the Savior of all men, specially those who believe" not merely only "a helper to those who believe." He saves to the uttermost, providing sufficient grace to all to have the free choice so nobody is without excuse. Since this verse can not be interpreted in any way possible to help Calvinism, it proves unequivocally that you are not saved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtP2SiP5sYI&feature=g-upl
So He's not the helper of people? I do accept the Jesus who died on the cross for the sins of believers, as the Bible implies. That's why I'm a Calvinist, as Calvin loved the Bible.
So Jesus is only a helper? You mustn't think very highly of Him.
Would the Bible only imply or does it directly say? It is most direct Jesus died on the cross for the sins of the whole world. Your god can't do that. What word can we use to describe his inability? Impotent, incompetent, take your pick.
Do you "accept the Jesus who died on the cross for the sins of believers"? No you don't, because what you mean is that your god irresistibly imposes salvation and is unable to be a ransom for all whosoever is willing. So you just assume you were irresistibly selected. What pride! what love is that? You just don't know God's love.
You have a relationship with evil that sends people to Hell who from birth were preterioned and made reprobate given no opportunity for salvation. If we treated each other that way we would be most guilty. How can God's standards be below our own? Don't you know you worship the Devil masquerading as an angel of light?
Why are you a Calvinist? The reason you are a Calvinist is because you prefer to be in your head than your spirit quickened with God's life. The head can do amazing gymnastics, but it is not real. You see things must have a cause and effect (which is true), so you can't understand how God can give us free will and yet have infinite foreknowledge.
Do you know how God gave you self-consciousness? No, you don't, but you know He did. Likewise, you don't know how God gave you free will, but you know He did. The cause, therefore, of your choices you choose is you, not God. God only supplies you with all available choices in any given scenario, but it is you that must decide and to choose. I too am mesmerized how God can do this, but we know He does it in both our experience and according to the Word of God.
1 Tim. 4.10 proves you are going to Hell, because "God is the Savior of all men, specially those who believe" not merely only "a helper to those who believe." He saves to the uttermost, providing sufficient grace to all to have the free choice so nobody is without excuse. Since this verse can not be interpreted in any way possible to help Calvinism, it proves unequivocally that you are not saved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtP2SiP5sYI&feature=g-upl