Parture
07-01-2011, 08:06 PM
“Let there be no misunderstanding at this point. The Arminian limits the atonement as certainly as does the Calvinist. The Calvinist limits the extent of it in that he says it does not apply to all persons…while the Arminian limits the power of it, for he says that in itself it does not actually save anybody. The Calvinist limits it quantitatively, but not qualitatively; the Arminian limits it qualitatively, but not quantitatively. - J White
James White is not a Christian. He is a false Christian. Let there be no mistake about this. Please try to understand.
Arminians don't limit the atonement for it is unlimited, that is to say, Jesus died for everyone whosoever is willing to receive the ransom He paid. Since this is a fact, Calvinism is false.
The atonement saves whosoever is willing to receive it. It would be wrong then to say it doesn't save anyone. Since there are saved people, obviously it saves.
Calvinists limit the power of the cross because it can only save people your god irresistibly selects. Whereas a bigger God and more gracious God and righteous God and holy God can actually save every single person without having to irresistibly impose salvation on anyone, for if everyone were to come to the cross they would be saved. Sadly, most refuse His love; even worse, James White worships a false Christ who acts like Hitler sending the Jews to the gas chambers irresistibly for no other reason than they were born Jews. What love is that?
Calvinists limit the power of the cross both quantitatively and qualitatively. The god of Calvinism if he could save everyone then he should, but he doesn't so that is quantitatively deficient. The quality of the salvation sucks also in Calvinism because true love is never forced, and free will is not real unless a person has sufficient grace to have the choice. This is something the god of Calvinism is unable to do. Thus, God trumps the god of Calvinism.
Arminians in the Scriptures disclose a salvation that is both qualitatively and quantitatively superior. The quantity is better in that Jesus saves the most and damns the least, and He could save all if everyone was willing. The quality is superior too because it allows for the person to have the choice. This is far better for God is relational, personal and not just moving chess pieces around on a chess board.
James White is not a Christian. He is a false Christian. Let there be no mistake about this. Please try to understand.
Arminians don't limit the atonement for it is unlimited, that is to say, Jesus died for everyone whosoever is willing to receive the ransom He paid. Since this is a fact, Calvinism is false.
The atonement saves whosoever is willing to receive it. It would be wrong then to say it doesn't save anyone. Since there are saved people, obviously it saves.
Calvinists limit the power of the cross because it can only save people your god irresistibly selects. Whereas a bigger God and more gracious God and righteous God and holy God can actually save every single person without having to irresistibly impose salvation on anyone, for if everyone were to come to the cross they would be saved. Sadly, most refuse His love; even worse, James White worships a false Christ who acts like Hitler sending the Jews to the gas chambers irresistibly for no other reason than they were born Jews. What love is that?
Calvinists limit the power of the cross both quantitatively and qualitatively. The god of Calvinism if he could save everyone then he should, but he doesn't so that is quantitatively deficient. The quality of the salvation sucks also in Calvinism because true love is never forced, and free will is not real unless a person has sufficient grace to have the choice. This is something the god of Calvinism is unable to do. Thus, God trumps the god of Calvinism.
Arminians in the Scriptures disclose a salvation that is both qualitatively and quantitatively superior. The quantity is better in that Jesus saves the most and damns the least, and He could save all if everyone was willing. The quality is superior too because it allows for the person to have the choice. This is far better for God is relational, personal and not just moving chess pieces around on a chess board.