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Parture
12-13-2010, 11:12 AM
Re: October31st1517 (Youtube)


The reason I am a Calvinist is because my final authority the bible teaches these precious doctrines. Also, Parture has invented his own version of OSAS so he can distance himself from God's sovereignty.(Calvinism) Not to mention his doctrine bears no resemblence to 1st century Christianity. In fact if he were a member of the 1st century church, he would've been disfellowshipped. How about a public debate tough guy?
I've never seen you ever able to find even one verse in the Bible to support your belief in Calvinism. Why do you keep this secretly hidden? Whereas Christians are excited to share the gospel openly to all. What first century Christians believed in Calvinism? Any onlooker can quickly determine the Calvinist can claim whatever they want but if they can't find anything in God's word to support their faith then their faith is false. Praise the Lord for this discernment! Amen.

When John the first announced Christ as the Lamb of God, he added: "which taketh away the sin of the world" (1.29), thus emphasizing His redeeming work for all; otherwrise, he would have said, "which taken away the sin of the world just for those who are made to believe." "Blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended by me" (Luke 7.23). It does not say, "blessed is he, whoever is made to not be offended by me." "For the grace of God has appeared for the salvation of all men" (Tit. 2.11).


Did God sovereignly love esau? What your not understanding is that none of us are deserving of God's love or pity. Obviously, you feel the scripture says otherwise. Flee from His wrath by fleeing to Him.Of course God sovereignly loved Esau but could foresee Esau would reject Him. What you don't understand is that none of us deserve to go to Hell just because we are born into sin. And since it would be evil for us to commit negligent homicide it is evil for your god. We are obligated to help one another in need just as God is because that is righteous. God loves us and we are deserving of that love because we are literally made in His image. Think how evil it would be to create us in His image then not love us or be unwilling to condescend to us. What love is that? That's like having a child with your wife and then throwing that child in a garbage bin claiming that child does not deserve your love and pity. Do you realize how psychotic you sound?

How can you flee from God's wrath with that attitude? Surely, you will go to Hell. How sad for you.

Parture
12-13-2010, 11:25 AM
Re: StutteringDave (Youtube)


Dude, OSAS isn't an arminian doctrine. it can be historically linked directly to Calvin.
You don't understand there are two kinds of OSAS. Arminian OSAS as taught by Jacob Arminius is salvation unto those who give their lives to the God who keeps; whereas the Calvinism OSAS is that of an evil tyrant which irresistibly forces souls into salvation without giving them the choice and keeps them locked into that jail as it were. Obviously, the latter is evil and demonic and a false salvation and hellbound.

Parture
12-13-2010, 11:32 AM
Re: fisherm2n (Youtube)

I agree with you in spirit, just refining your words. Technically, nobody is Totally depraved, since God's grace is sufficient for us all to respond as sovereign free-willed beings. Technically, God does predestinate to Hell, but not by denying them sufficient grace to respond or irresistibly imposing, but by foreknowing their free choice. He predestinates by foreknowing our free-choice: a conditional election, unlimited atonement, resistible grace, for preservation of the saints.