Parture
10-23-2010, 04:36 PM
Premillennialism Futurism (Christian eschatology) affirms that the 2300 days of Daniel 8.14 have not yet occurred and refer to the future unsanctioned sacerdotal rites (the Temple is approved by God but not the rites) of a yet future Third Temple to be completed during early portion of the 70th week of Daniel's Prophecy - which also is yet future. The "reign of the Beast" (Abomination of Desolation) commences at the mid-point of Daniel's Prophecy of the Seventieth Week and thus ensues in "days" (as in the "evening and morning" Daniel 8.14) the 1290 days of "desolations" or "abominations" (Daniel 12.12). These "desolations" or "the host to be trampled underfoot" (Daniel 8.13) must be calculated by adding the days of the "daily sacrifices" in a restored Third Temple, yet future, to the "days of desolation" or 1010 (days of sacrifice) + 1290 (days of desolations) = 2300 days: "'How long will the vision be, concerning the daily sacrifices and the transgression of desolation, the giving of both the sanctuary and the host to be trampled underfoot?' and he said to me, 'For two thousand three hundred days; then the sanctuary shall be cleansed.'" Eschatologists conclude that the Prophecy of the Seventieth Week is directed to partly to the Jews in a regathered Israel in the "latter days" ("Seventy weeks are determined for your people and for your holy city" - Daniel 9:24) as well as to the Church in terms of the parousia of Christ. Is this entirely correct? No! Please read...
From the 1260th day to the 1290th day is 30 days more after Jesus returns. Jesus casts His judgment over the nations for those 30 days. After which time 45 days more are needed to the 1335th day set up Israel as the center of all nations. If the 2300 days is to the 1260th day (not to the 1290th), then the Temple would be completed 1040 rather than 1010 days before the Great Tribulation starts. There would needs be an adjustment to common thinking as given here:
250 Days (From the commencement of Daniel's 70th Week - Period of Rebuilding the Third Temple) + 1010 Days (Period of Sacrifices) to the "Middle of the Week" and the "Abomination of Desolation" + 1290 Days of "Desolations" (Daniel 12.11) (which is equal to 2300 days - i.e., 1010+1290=2300 Days - which is 30 days beyond the conclusion of Daniel's 70th Week) + 45 Days or unto the 1335th Day (i.e., the period of the "judgment of the nations" and of the "unveiling of Messiah to National Israel" - Daniel 12.12) - total numbers of "days" involved: 250+1010+1290+45=2595 Days.
It is true 2300 days is from the completion of the Temple to the last day of the Tribulation, but 2300 - 1260 = 1040 days before the Great Tribulation commences after the Temple is completed. 1260 - 1040 = 220 the number of days the Temple needs to be completed after the Tribulation starts. From the start of the Tribulation to the end is a total of 2595 days. The only difference in this viewpoint is that Jesus' very presence is cleansing rather than Jesus while on earth having to wait 30 days more, so the 250 calculation is wrong and should only be 220 days before the sacrifices can commence.
G. H. Lang agrees with me about the 220 days. It's clear that the 19th century in which Lang lived was the most spiritual under the Brethren movement (1828) who wanted to just be called Christians, but close on the heels Satan usurped lots of cults that tried to counter God's truths (e.g. JW's, Mormons, 7th Day Adventists, Christian Science, Pentecostalism "gibberish babble", more non-OSAS and Calvinism). G. H. Lang said,
Now, as we shall see when we consider the revelation of the Seventy Sevens, the Antichrist is to make a covenant with the majority of the Jewish nation for Seven Years, at the close of which period he will be destroyed by the appearing of the Lord. It would seem, then, that he will not tamper with the Sanctuary, until the two hundred and twenty-first day from the date of the commencement of the covenant; indeed, it is possible that the building of the Temple may not be completed until that time. Perhaps, the two thousand three hundred days may represent the whole time of his personal connection with the City and Sanctuary. The actual suppression of the daily sacrifices will not take place, as we shall presently see, until three years and a half of the covenant-period have passed by.” (G. H. Pember, Great Prophecies, pp. 127-8, from G. H. Lang’s The Histories and Prophecies of Daniel, p. 117).
It is so wonderful these words by G. H. Lang, agreeable with G. H. Pember, who agrees with me precisely here.
Therefore, we can be confident the 2300 days refers to the last 2300 days within the 7 year Tribulation. The 2300 days is 6.3 years. It is the time when the 3rd Temple is completed, sacrifices begin again (against God's will), 1040 days later the sacrifices are stopped, and after the 5th Trumpet the Antichrist invades Israel, Jerusalem and the Temple.
"Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed" (Dan. 8.13-14). Why? Because Jesus steps down on the mount of olives (Zech. 14.4) on Aug. 7, 2022.
The sanctuary will finally be cleansed because Jesus returns at that time (the 1260th day of the Great Trib.) at the end of those 2300 days. A peace treat is signed at the start of the 7 years. 220 days into the Tribulation the Temple is completed and the sacrifices start. The Antichrist however does not cease those sacrifices at that time. He waits till three and a half years into the Tribulation to do so. Dan. 8.13-14 doesn't say the sacrifices will cease at the start of the 2300 days (220 days into the Tribulation) but it is at that point only "concerning the daily sacrifice". The "transgression and desolation" commences with the Antichrist in his relationship to the Temple which immediately takes effect once it is built because he is integral to the 7 year peace treat as well as the construction of the Temple. His very involvement is a transgression. The fact that animal sacrifices are not supposed to be performed anyway because Jesus is our once-for-all sacrifice also lends weight to "transgression and desolation."
Compare the two main views:
The passages in Daniel 8 through 12 by futurists refer to National Israel, not exclusively though (Daniel 8.14—“then the sanctuary shall be cleansed”) since the “cleansing” is directly associated with the second advent of Christ, which indeed is the case (His cleansing of the Temple is directly connected with Daniel 12.12 and completed on the 1,335th Day); its implications concerning Israel’s ramifications are wholly disregarded by historicists—for in their eyes, the book of Daniel, in the main, excludes the “previous” “your people and for your holy city” (Daniel 9:24—i.e., the Jews) and, based upon the Amillenarian backgrounds of these proponents, the Roman Church, Eastern Orthodox, Calvinists, Lutherans and ultimately Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormonism and other cults, they wholly appropriate all the promises made to National Israel, and, like St. Augustine, Origen, and other eschatological systems of interpretation (i.e., the Postmillennialism, Preterists), to the Church and the annihilation of Israel, called suppercessionism (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/supersessionism). This is demonic!
http://www.conservapedia.com/2300_Day_Prophecy_of_Daniel_8
From the 1260th day to the 1290th day is 30 days more after Jesus returns. Jesus casts His judgment over the nations for those 30 days. After which time 45 days more are needed to the 1335th day set up Israel as the center of all nations. If the 2300 days is to the 1260th day (not to the 1290th), then the Temple would be completed 1040 rather than 1010 days before the Great Tribulation starts. There would needs be an adjustment to common thinking as given here:
250 Days (From the commencement of Daniel's 70th Week - Period of Rebuilding the Third Temple) + 1010 Days (Period of Sacrifices) to the "Middle of the Week" and the "Abomination of Desolation" + 1290 Days of "Desolations" (Daniel 12.11) (which is equal to 2300 days - i.e., 1010+1290=2300 Days - which is 30 days beyond the conclusion of Daniel's 70th Week) + 45 Days or unto the 1335th Day (i.e., the period of the "judgment of the nations" and of the "unveiling of Messiah to National Israel" - Daniel 12.12) - total numbers of "days" involved: 250+1010+1290+45=2595 Days.
It is true 2300 days is from the completion of the Temple to the last day of the Tribulation, but 2300 - 1260 = 1040 days before the Great Tribulation commences after the Temple is completed. 1260 - 1040 = 220 the number of days the Temple needs to be completed after the Tribulation starts. From the start of the Tribulation to the end is a total of 2595 days. The only difference in this viewpoint is that Jesus' very presence is cleansing rather than Jesus while on earth having to wait 30 days more, so the 250 calculation is wrong and should only be 220 days before the sacrifices can commence.
G. H. Lang agrees with me about the 220 days. It's clear that the 19th century in which Lang lived was the most spiritual under the Brethren movement (1828) who wanted to just be called Christians, but close on the heels Satan usurped lots of cults that tried to counter God's truths (e.g. JW's, Mormons, 7th Day Adventists, Christian Science, Pentecostalism "gibberish babble", more non-OSAS and Calvinism). G. H. Lang said,
Now, as we shall see when we consider the revelation of the Seventy Sevens, the Antichrist is to make a covenant with the majority of the Jewish nation for Seven Years, at the close of which period he will be destroyed by the appearing of the Lord. It would seem, then, that he will not tamper with the Sanctuary, until the two hundred and twenty-first day from the date of the commencement of the covenant; indeed, it is possible that the building of the Temple may not be completed until that time. Perhaps, the two thousand three hundred days may represent the whole time of his personal connection with the City and Sanctuary. The actual suppression of the daily sacrifices will not take place, as we shall presently see, until three years and a half of the covenant-period have passed by.” (G. H. Pember, Great Prophecies, pp. 127-8, from G. H. Lang’s The Histories and Prophecies of Daniel, p. 117).
It is so wonderful these words by G. H. Lang, agreeable with G. H. Pember, who agrees with me precisely here.
Therefore, we can be confident the 2300 days refers to the last 2300 days within the 7 year Tribulation. The 2300 days is 6.3 years. It is the time when the 3rd Temple is completed, sacrifices begin again (against God's will), 1040 days later the sacrifices are stopped, and after the 5th Trumpet the Antichrist invades Israel, Jerusalem and the Temple.
"Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed" (Dan. 8.13-14). Why? Because Jesus steps down on the mount of olives (Zech. 14.4) on Aug. 7, 2022.
The sanctuary will finally be cleansed because Jesus returns at that time (the 1260th day of the Great Trib.) at the end of those 2300 days. A peace treat is signed at the start of the 7 years. 220 days into the Tribulation the Temple is completed and the sacrifices start. The Antichrist however does not cease those sacrifices at that time. He waits till three and a half years into the Tribulation to do so. Dan. 8.13-14 doesn't say the sacrifices will cease at the start of the 2300 days (220 days into the Tribulation) but it is at that point only "concerning the daily sacrifice". The "transgression and desolation" commences with the Antichrist in his relationship to the Temple which immediately takes effect once it is built because he is integral to the 7 year peace treat as well as the construction of the Temple. His very involvement is a transgression. The fact that animal sacrifices are not supposed to be performed anyway because Jesus is our once-for-all sacrifice also lends weight to "transgression and desolation."
Compare the two main views:
The passages in Daniel 8 through 12 by futurists refer to National Israel, not exclusively though (Daniel 8.14—“then the sanctuary shall be cleansed”) since the “cleansing” is directly associated with the second advent of Christ, which indeed is the case (His cleansing of the Temple is directly connected with Daniel 12.12 and completed on the 1,335th Day); its implications concerning Israel’s ramifications are wholly disregarded by historicists—for in their eyes, the book of Daniel, in the main, excludes the “previous” “your people and for your holy city” (Daniel 9:24—i.e., the Jews) and, based upon the Amillenarian backgrounds of these proponents, the Roman Church, Eastern Orthodox, Calvinists, Lutherans and ultimately Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormonism and other cults, they wholly appropriate all the promises made to National Israel, and, like St. Augustine, Origen, and other eschatological systems of interpretation (i.e., the Postmillennialism, Preterists), to the Church and the annihilation of Israel, called suppercessionism (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/supersessionism). This is demonic!
http://www.conservapedia.com/2300_Day_Prophecy_of_Daniel_8