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Churchwork
10-27-2009, 01:05 AM
One good example of where the book of Mormon lies about the real Jesus is in the book of Alma chapter 7, verse 10, saying Jesus “shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem.”(my emphasis). This is one of the simplest ways you can show a Mormon where the book is a lie. As we have been guided into all truth guide the Mormon into Truth.

Ask the Mormon where Jesus was born. If he does not know, which many do not, take him to Micah 5:2 (http://bible.logos.com/passage/esv/Micah%205.2) while explaining to him that God is a God of Truth and He knows the future and shows his people where to look for the birth place of their coming ruler. 700 years before Christ was born this prophet of God foretold his birthplace in the small little town of Bethlehem.
Explain to the Mormon that not only did God foretell of the birthplace of Jesus but also God made sure that the birthplace would be verified and witnessed to as the place where Jesus was born. Show the Mormon Matthew 2:1 (http://bible.logos.com/passage/esv/Matthew%202.1); Luke 2:4-6 (http://bible.logos.com/passage/esv/Luke%202.4-6). Here are two separate accurate accounts of the birthplace of Jesus.
Take the Mormon to his own Book of Mormon and show him that this most correct book of all time records the birth of Jesus as occurring at Jerusalem (Alma 7:10). Usually the only answer they have is that Bethlehem is near Jerusalem. You might explain that while that is true, if one was walking 2000 years ago to find the true Messiah in Jerusalem he would have never found Him there. Also, if one was really using this book as a guide to find his Messiah maybe he would be mislead today as well as 2000 years ago (if this book had been available) when this would have been wrong information. Bethlehem is several miles away from Jerusalem and even today, with modern transportation and where distances are much less a factor, when someone is born in a hospital in Bethlehem they record on the birth certificate that the birth occurred in Bethlehem. So, who is this spirit that is leading the Mormon into error is the next question. If the Book of Mormon is so correct and leads men into truth how could it make such a error on such a simple point as to the birthplace of Jesus?
http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/discernment/mormonism/witnessing-to-mormons#more-435

Churchwork
10-29-2009, 05:56 PM
What am I wrong about 12 names? Your misreading doesn't count.

You're not reading the Bible with the Holy Spirit.

"The Savior--yes, the Messiah, the Lord--has been born tonight in Bethlehem, the city of David!" (Luke 2.11).

David took from the Jebusites the fortress of Mount Zion. He "dwelt in the fort, and called it the city of David" (1 Chr. 11:7). This was the name afterwards given to the castle and royal palace on Mount Zion, as distinguished from Jerusalem generally (1 Kings 3:1; 8:1), It was on the southwest side of Jerusalem, opposite the temple mount, with which it was connected by a bridge over the Tyropoeon valley.

Jesus was born in a fortress? That's silly. He was born in a manger.

Bethlehem is called the "city of David" (Luke 2:4, 11), because it was David's birthplace and early home (1 Sam. 17:12) where Jesus was born.

"Now David was the son of that Ephrathite (http://www.christiananswers.net/dictionary/ephrathite.html) of Bethlehemjudah, whose name was Jesse; and he had eight sons: and the man went among men for an old man in the days of Saul" (1 Sam. 17.12).

http://www.christiananswers.net/dictionary/davidcityof.html
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/15302

Joseph Smith and Mormons are wrong for saying Jesus was born in Bethlehem.