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10-27-2009, 12:07 AM
dont get calvinist out of context.. They beleive that you can not do anything for salvation. Roman 3.. We all hate God, we do not seek God, All men have turned away. Not this being said, they beleive that Holy Spirit softens our hearts therefore we repent.. (based on many versus but one is the story of Peter talking to the woman and the HS softens her heart.) To say he wasnt saves is dumb, Im a baptist yet i think calvinist and armenians are saved.because because faith saves us..not calvinism
That no one seeks God in Rom. 3 is not indicating Total depravity, but propensity to sin and need for dependency on God because we have gone astray but we have free will: "when we trust in Jesus Christ" (Rom. 3.22a).
Don't confuse the willful condition of man as a necessary condition of man. Man is not Totally unable--this is idolatry so that you continue to refuse to repent and believe in Christ to be regenerated.
God provides sufficient grace to us all: "And we all can be saved in this same way, no matter who we are or what we have done" (v.22b).
By common grace received, "God was being entirely fair and just when he did not punish those who sinned in former times" (v.25) which was sufficient. Don't believe in the evil god of Calvinism which teaches you that he performs preterition over billions. What love is this? God is entirely fair!
"And he is entirely fair and just in this present time when he declares sinners to be right in his sight because they believe in Jesus" (v.26) under special grace.
Verse 27 contrasts deeds with faith, and faith as a choice. The Holy Spirit hardens the heart of the Calvinist because the Calvinist refuses, by his own volition, to repent and believe in Christ to be regenerated. The Holy Spirit will not work in a one who wants a selfish salvation, no matter how delusional that one may be he is in Christ.
Jesus said they call upon Him Lord, Lord, but He says He never knew you. The woman you speak of was willingly receptive so God could work in her, but not so with a Calvinist. That's why Calvinists are notoriously hard people like James White.
Faith saves us, not irresistibly imposed salvation. That would not be love.
By the way, learn how to spell better. It's Arminian, not Armenian. Armenian is a nationality of people.
That no one seeks God in Rom. 3 is not indicating Total depravity, but propensity to sin and need for dependency on God because we have gone astray but we have free will: "when we trust in Jesus Christ" (Rom. 3.22a).
Don't confuse the willful condition of man as a necessary condition of man. Man is not Totally unable--this is idolatry so that you continue to refuse to repent and believe in Christ to be regenerated.
God provides sufficient grace to us all: "And we all can be saved in this same way, no matter who we are or what we have done" (v.22b).
By common grace received, "God was being entirely fair and just when he did not punish those who sinned in former times" (v.25) which was sufficient. Don't believe in the evil god of Calvinism which teaches you that he performs preterition over billions. What love is this? God is entirely fair!
"And he is entirely fair and just in this present time when he declares sinners to be right in his sight because they believe in Jesus" (v.26) under special grace.
Verse 27 contrasts deeds with faith, and faith as a choice. The Holy Spirit hardens the heart of the Calvinist because the Calvinist refuses, by his own volition, to repent and believe in Christ to be regenerated. The Holy Spirit will not work in a one who wants a selfish salvation, no matter how delusional that one may be he is in Christ.
Jesus said they call upon Him Lord, Lord, but He says He never knew you. The woman you speak of was willingly receptive so God could work in her, but not so with a Calvinist. That's why Calvinists are notoriously hard people like James White.
Faith saves us, not irresistibly imposed salvation. That would not be love.
By the way, learn how to spell better. It's Arminian, not Armenian. Armenian is a nationality of people.