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Josh McDowell's "Evidence" for Jesus Is It Reliable?
Jeffery Jay Lowder Last Updated: May 15, 2000 (papers@infidels.org (papers@infidels.org))
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html)
Mara Bar-Serapion is worthless as a witness to the historicity of Jesus. Mara Bar-Serapion, an imprisoned Syrian who wrote sometime after 73 CE, made the following statement in a letter to his son:
What advantage did the Athenians gain from putting Socrates to death? Famine and plague came upon them as a judgment for their crime. What advantage did the men of Samos gain from burning Pythagoras? In a moment their land was covered with sand. What advantage did the Jews gain from executing their wise King? It was just after that their Kingdom was abolished. God justly avenged these three wise men: the Athenians died of hunger; the Samians were overwhelmed by the sea; the Jews, ruined and driven from their land, live in complete dispersion. But Socrates did not die for good; he lived on in the teaching of Plato. Pythagoras did not die for good; he lived on in the statue of Hera. Nor did the wise King die for good; He lived on in the teaching which He had given.[134 (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html#134)]
In a previous version of this essay, citing an essay by Farrell Till, I denied that 'wise King' was a reference to Jesus. Emphasizing that the other characters Bar-Serapion mentions by name lived long before Jesus, Till argues that "[m]essianic pretenders in Judea were a dime a dozen" and that the 'wise King' could have been the "Teacher of Righteousness" mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls.[135 (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html#135)] However, it now seems to me that this is nothing more than a bare possibility. Just because Bar-Serapion discusses Pythagoras and Socrates in the same passage as he mentions this 'wise King' does not make it likely that this 'wise King' lived during roughly the same period as them. Moreover, given that Jesus was crucified by the Romans, not the Jews, Bar-Serapion's choice of words is inexplicable unless we assume that he received his information about this 'wise King' from Christians. (Remember that the Christians held the Jews at least partially responsible for Jesus' crucifixion.) However, if Bar-Serapion received his information from Christians, two conclusions follow. First, it is highly likely that this 'wise King' was Jesus.[136 (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html#136)] Second, Bar-Serapion does not provide independent confirmation of the historicity of Jesus.
The value of Bar-Serapion's letter as an independent witness to the historical Jesus is further decreased by our uncertainty concerning its date. McDowell quotes the conservative scholar F.F. Bruce as stating that the letter was "written some time later than A.D. 73, but how much later we cannot be sure."[137 (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html#137)] Indeed we cannot. Archibald Robertson--who accepted the historicity of Jesus--reported that "such authorities as Cureton and M'Lean date it in the second or even third" century.[138 (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html#138)] Of course, as McDowell and Wilson point out, "the letter could be as early as the first century," but possibility must not be confused with probability.[139 (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html#139)] For this letter to have any value at all as a witness to the historicity of Jesus, it needs to have been written earlier rather than later, and there is simply no evidence that it was.
Yet another problem with Bar-Serapion's letter is its historical inaccuracies. In addition to the bogus claim that the Jews executed Jesus, Bar-Serapion's letter contains other errors. Till notes that the letter implies Pythagoras had been killed by his countrymen, yet "Pythagoras left the island of Samos in 530 B. C. and emigrated to the Greek colony of Croton in Southern Italy. He later died in Metapontum, which is now Metaponto, Italy."[140 (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html#140)] McDowell and Wilson admit that Mara Bar-Serapion's "information about Athens and Samos is inaccurate."[141 (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html#141)]
In closing, it is interesting to note that even Holding is forced to admit that "[t]his reference to Jesus is not particularly valuable."[142 (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html#142)] However, that is an understatement. Bar-Serapion's letter is virtually worthless as a witness to the historicity of Jesus: it does not provide independent confirmation.[143 (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html#143)]
Print Edition: 1990-2002 The "Testimony" of Mara Bar-Serapion
by Farrell Till 1995 / July-August (TSReditor@iierrancy.com (TSReditor@iierrancy.com))
http://www.theskepticalreview.com/tsrmag/4mara95.html (http://www.theskepticalreview.com/tsrmag/4mara95.html)
The absence of extrabiblical evidence of the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth has long been an embarrassment to Christian apologists. In their defense of Christianity, early church fathers like Justin Martyr, Origen, Tertullian, and Clement of Alexandria cited from both Jewish and pagan sources evidences that they thought were supportive of Christianity, but they were unable to produce any secular testimony of the actual existence of Jesus. The frustrating truth was (and is) that secular records contemporary to the time that Jesus allegedly lived were completely silent about this man who presumably was so famous that great multitudes followed him during his personal ministry ( Matt. 4:24-25, 8:1, 18, 13:2, 15:30, 19:2, 21:9; Luke 5:15, Luke 14:25). Inasmuch as word of Jesus's works spread at least as far as Syria (according to the New Testament record) and attracted people from there to be cured of "divers diseases and torments" ( Matt. 4:24), one would think that historians of the time would have heard about the man and recorded at least some of this part of his life. But it didn't happen. Contemporary secular records don't even mention the man Jesus. It is as if historians would examine all records of the 4th century B. C. and find no references to Alexander the Great.
In our modern age of enlightenment, the fact that no indisputable testimony to the life of Jesus can be found outside of the New Testament and apocryphal documents (all of which were penned by obviously biased writers) continues to trouble Christian apologists, possibly more so than at any time in church history. In their frustration, they have resorted to some rather imaginative efforts to find Jesus of Nazareth in ancient secular records. One such effort has focused on a letter that may have been written toward the end of the first century.
The writer, Mara Bar-Serapion, was in prison at the time, and he wrote the letter to exhort his son to seek wisdom. The following quotation from the letter is sometimes cited as evidence that Jesus of Nazareth was mentioned in contemporary secular documents:
What advantage did the Athenians gain from putting Socrates to death? Famine and plague came upon them as a judgment for their crime. What advantage did the men of Samos gain from burning Pythagoras? In a moment their land was covered with sand. What advantage did the Jews gain from executing their wise king? It was just after that that their kingdom was abolished. God justly avenged these three wise men: the Athenians died of hunger; the Samians were overwhelmed by the sea; the Jews, ruined and driven from their land, live in complete dispersion. But Socrates did not die for good; he lived on in the teaching of Plato. Pythagoras did not die for good; he lived on in the statue of Hera. Nor did the wise king die for good; he lived on in the teaching which he had given (quoted by F. F. Bruce, The New Testament Documents: Are They Reliable? Eerdmans Publishing Co., Fifth Revised Edition, p. 114).
Bruce, an often-quoted Christian apologist, noted that this letter was "written some time later than A. D. 73, but how much later we cannot be sure" (Ibid.). He, of course, wants to see this letter as proof of the historicity of Jesus, but by his own admission, the document was written at least 40 years after the time that Jesus allegedly lived and possibly even later. Since Bar-Serapion made no claim in his letter that he had personally witnessed the execution of the "wise king" or had ever even seen him, his statement cannot in any sense be considered firsthand testimony of the historicity of Jesus, as Bruce and other apologists would like us to believe that it is.
We can't even be sure that Bar-Serapion was referring to Jesus. He didn't identify the "wise king" by name, as he did in the case of both Socrates and Pythagoras, so one merely speculates when he says that this is a first-century secular reference to Jesus. How does one make that determination? Messianic pretenders in Judea were a dime a dozen during the era of foreign domination. Josephus referred to some of them, and even the New Testament mentioned two of them in Gamaliel's speech to the Jewish council (Acts 5:35-36). In Bandits, Prophets, and Messiahs: Popular Movements at the Time of Jesus (Harper & Row, 1985), authors Richard Horsley and John Hanson tell of several Messianic prophets of this period besides Theudas and Judas of Galilee, whom Gamaliel mentioned in his speech. Some of these Messiahs were even named Jesus, and most of them came to ignominious ends at the hands ofeither the Romans or their own countrymen. How, then, do Bruce and other apologists who cite Mara Bar-Serapion's reference to a "wise king" who was executed by the Jews know for a fact that this was an allusion to Jesus of Nazareth and not to some other Messianic prophet of those times?
One could just as easily assume that Mara Bar-Serapion was referring to the Essene "Teacher of Righteousness," who was often mentioned in the Dead Sea scrolls found at Qumran. The person in these documents called the teacher of righteousness was presented as a Messianic figure who suffered vicariously for the people. Since Essene teachings were widely circulated before and after the time Jesus allegedly lived, one could argue that this teacher "lived on in the teaching which he had given." The point is that Mara Bar-Serapion simply did not identify the "wise king" whom the Jews had "executed," and in the absence of that information, one can only guess who this was supposed to be. F. F. Bruce and his inerrantist cohorts can't just arbitrarily make a vague statement like this into a reference to Jesus. They need proof that Bar-Serapion definitely meant Jesus, and they simply don't have it.
We should notice too the historical time frame of the characters that Bar-Serapion specifically identified by name. Socrates lived in the 5th century B. C. and Pythagoras in the 6th. One may legitimately wonder, then, if Bar-Serapion's "wise king" was someone who had lived about the same time as Socrates and Pythagoras rather than someone who had been "executed" centuries after their time. Bar-Serapion did say that "just after" the execution of their "wise king," the Jews had their kingdom abolished and were "ruined and driven from their land" to live "in complete dispersion," so he could very well have been referring to events close to the time of Pythagoras and Socrates when the Jews' kingdom was abolished by Nebuchadnezzar, after which the Jews were taken into Babylonian captivity and later dispersed in various countries, or he could even have been referring to a king in the northern kingdom of Israel, which was abolished by the Assyrian conquest of 722-721 B.C., after which the northern tribes were dispersed to Mesopotamia and Media, where they eventually lost their national identity. At any rate, if Bar-Serapion was using the word king literally, he had to be referring to someone who lived before the Babylonian conquest of Judea, because there simply were no "Jewish kings" after Zedekiah, whom Nebuchadnezzar installed as a puppet until he finally sacked Jerusalem in 586 B. C. and "abolished" the Jewish kingdom. So if the Jews had literally executed a "wise king," it had to have been someone who lived before that date.
There is just as much biblical evidence to support this view as there is for the apologetic claim that Bar-Serapion was referring to Jesus. The Bible itself recorded the political assassinations of Jewish royalty that occurred close enough to Nebuchadnezzar's capture of Jerusalem to consider the conquest of either Israel or Judea as an event that had happened "just after" the murder of one of these kings. Josiah's father, King Amon, for example, was assassinated less than 50 years before Nebuchadnezzar's siege of Jerusalem (2 Kings 21:23). Admittedly, the Bible didn't speak very flatteringly of Amon or of most of the other assassinated Jewish kings either for that matter, but in the absence of corroborating records, who can really know how objective the writers of biblical history were? At times, they seemed very political in their reporting. Who can know either what records and traditions Bar-Serapion may have known about that would have given him a different perspective of Jewish history than the ethnocentric views of the biblical writers? Furthermore, if Christian apologists are going to quibble that some biblical details do not fit the theory that Bar-Serapion's "wise king" was one of the kings of Israel or Judea assassinated before Jerusalem's fall to Nebuchadnezzar, they should admit that some biblical details don't fit their Jesus theory either. Where, for example, does the New Testament say that the Jews executed Jesus? It says that he was executed by the Romans. The New Testament also teaches that Judea was under foreign domination during the life of Jesus, so the Jews' kingdom wasn't abolished after Jesus was executed. It had been abolished long before then.
For the sake of argument, let's just assume that Bar-Serapion's letter was beyond all reasonable doubt referring to Jesus of Nazareth. Still it could not be considered reliable evidence that such a person had actually lived, because the letter contains factual errors. According to Bar-Serapion, the "men of Samos" had "burn[ed]" Pythagoras, an implication that he had been killed by his countrymen. In reality, Pythagoras left the island of Samos in 530 B. C. and emigrated to the Greek colony of Croton in Southern Italy. He later died in Metapontum, which is now Metaponto, Italy (Encyclopedia Americana, 1994, Vol. 23, p. 45). The men of Samos did not "burn" Pythagoras, so if Mara Bar-Serapion's letter was incorrect in such an important detail as this, how can it be considered reliable proof of the historicity of anything, much less the existence of a person who wasn't even mentioned by name in the document?
We might also ask what Mara Bar-Serapion meant in saying that Pythagoras "lived on in the statue of Hera." What statue of Hera? Hera was the sister and wife of Zeus, so there were undoubtedly many statues of her in the Greek culture of the 6th century B. C. What exactly did Bar-Serapion mean? When was the island of Samos covered with sand "in a moment," and when did the famine and plague come upon the Athenians after their crime against Socrates? History knows of no events as calamitous as these that Bar-Serapion referred to. To say the least, there is a lot of vagueness and uncertainty in this document.
Christian apologists will have to keep looking, because they have certainly found no proof of the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth in Mara Bar-Serapion's letter.
EDITOR'S NOTE: Sharon Williams with whom I have debated the historical Jesus and other biblical subjects through several letters published in The Pekin (Illinois) Daily Times, was sent an advanced copy of this article and invited to respond to it. She declined on the grounds that she did not want to be mistreated in TSR.
Helpful information: http://www.thedevineevidence.com/jesus_history.html
Farrell & Lowder,
1) It would seem to me the two individuals mentioned in the Bible who you considered candidates for Mara's wise king don't apply because Mara would be talking about the victoriously king, and Jesus is the one who succeeded in gaining a following more than any other at that time.
2) And since Mara talked about a dispersion when was there a dispersion but 70 AD? So the Teacher of Righteousness in the Dead Sea Scrolls would not apply because that was 170 yeas before the dispersion talked about by Mara.
3) You make a good point about there being no contemporary non-Christian sources, but since you admit there were many miracle workers at the time, two others you mentioned in the Bible, but you don't hear about them from secular sources either, you can't have it both ways! Please correct me if I am wrong on this point. I just think it is wrong to have a doublestandard. Yes, Jesus reached through Syria, but still that was not that much more of an area compared to the known world. I think writers at the time were concerned with political issues. Religious leaders were not that interesting to writers as they were you admit "a dime a dozen."
4) You misused the phrase "just after" because it follows the comment of the Jews not Socrates, and since Mara wrote shortly after 70 AD it is in the time frame of his experience. In writing to his son, he is pulling wisdom from age old past to apply to his time and his recent experience. The time of Jesus and 70 AD fall within the time of recent experience compared to hundreds of years before for Socrates and Pythagoras. The emphasis was on the wise King of the Jews, their Messiah.
5) In trying to apply "just after" to a dispersion of Israel from the end of their slavery in Babylon under Nebuchadnezzar, Israel returned backed to their homeland. They weren't dispersed to the nations were they?
6) You said no king applies to Israel after their Babylon captivity as they were just puppets. He was a wise King (Jesus was mocked by the Romans as The King of the Jews, the messianic prophecies fulfilled by Jesus referred to the coming Messiah as a king, Christian believers believed Jesus was their promised spiritual king, and Jesus was born from the royal line of King David).
7) Mara was talking to his son to give him wisdom, but you said these other kings were unrighteous according to the Bible.
8) The Bible makes no bones about the Jews causing the death of Jesus. The Jews were under Roman domination which restricted their ability to execute capital punishment. The Jews rallied the Roman government to crucify Jesus for the crime of blasphemy as they did not have the legal power to do so. Even the Bible mentions Pilate's reluctance to punish an innocent man but that he allowed it to take place to prevent a Jewish revolt in an already hostile environment.
9) As for Pythagoras' death, there are two theories (one which implies burning). They agree that around 500 BC, there was an uprising against the Pythagoreans and the city of Croton was pillaged and burned. Pythagoras fled and was either caught and killed by rebels when he refused to cross a bean field, or managed to make his way to Metapontum (on the coast of Italy), where he took refuge in the Temple of the Muses and eventually died of starvation.
10) Pythagoras was born on the Greek island of Samos, site of a "monumental" temple to Hera, queen of the Olympian gods. All Mara is saying I think is he is giving glory to that great statue on the island where he lived. His memory lives on through this statue of this temple.
11) Samos has flooding problems so it gets covered with sand from the flooding. There could have been one particular flood following the burning of Pythagoras that was greater than usual. You might be able to find it in ancient literature.
12) I don't have time to check on plagues and famines the Athenians endured in their relation to mistreating Socrates. But I have no doubt God uses nature to punish the wicked.
13) Mara's letter to his son represents independent confirmation. He is not relying on someone else, but this is his true beliefs that the Jews killed their wise King Jesus Christ. He deeply knows this to be true, and only Jesus fits the bill. The best explanatory scope (http://biblocality.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2878&highlight=explanatory+scope) and really the only option is Mara is talking about Jesus who has become more widely known, e.g. secular writers are writing about Jesus also, such as Tacitus from Roman records rather than hearsay (when it is hearsay, Tacitus qualifies it as being hearsay as his standard practice, so he had a legitimate source either an eyewitness or Roman records which is nonetheless still secondary). A better secondary source would by Polycarp who said he was a student of John or Clement of Rome who knew Peter personally. Clement of Rome, Polycarp and Ignatius all report on Paul.
Jeffery Jay Lowder Last Updated: May 15, 2000 (papers@infidels.org (papers@infidels.org))
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html)
Mara Bar-Serapion is worthless as a witness to the historicity of Jesus. Mara Bar-Serapion, an imprisoned Syrian who wrote sometime after 73 CE, made the following statement in a letter to his son:
What advantage did the Athenians gain from putting Socrates to death? Famine and plague came upon them as a judgment for their crime. What advantage did the men of Samos gain from burning Pythagoras? In a moment their land was covered with sand. What advantage did the Jews gain from executing their wise King? It was just after that their Kingdom was abolished. God justly avenged these three wise men: the Athenians died of hunger; the Samians were overwhelmed by the sea; the Jews, ruined and driven from their land, live in complete dispersion. But Socrates did not die for good; he lived on in the teaching of Plato. Pythagoras did not die for good; he lived on in the statue of Hera. Nor did the wise King die for good; He lived on in the teaching which He had given.[134 (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html#134)]
In a previous version of this essay, citing an essay by Farrell Till, I denied that 'wise King' was a reference to Jesus. Emphasizing that the other characters Bar-Serapion mentions by name lived long before Jesus, Till argues that "[m]essianic pretenders in Judea were a dime a dozen" and that the 'wise King' could have been the "Teacher of Righteousness" mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls.[135 (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html#135)] However, it now seems to me that this is nothing more than a bare possibility. Just because Bar-Serapion discusses Pythagoras and Socrates in the same passage as he mentions this 'wise King' does not make it likely that this 'wise King' lived during roughly the same period as them. Moreover, given that Jesus was crucified by the Romans, not the Jews, Bar-Serapion's choice of words is inexplicable unless we assume that he received his information about this 'wise King' from Christians. (Remember that the Christians held the Jews at least partially responsible for Jesus' crucifixion.) However, if Bar-Serapion received his information from Christians, two conclusions follow. First, it is highly likely that this 'wise King' was Jesus.[136 (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html#136)] Second, Bar-Serapion does not provide independent confirmation of the historicity of Jesus.
The value of Bar-Serapion's letter as an independent witness to the historical Jesus is further decreased by our uncertainty concerning its date. McDowell quotes the conservative scholar F.F. Bruce as stating that the letter was "written some time later than A.D. 73, but how much later we cannot be sure."[137 (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html#137)] Indeed we cannot. Archibald Robertson--who accepted the historicity of Jesus--reported that "such authorities as Cureton and M'Lean date it in the second or even third" century.[138 (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html#138)] Of course, as McDowell and Wilson point out, "the letter could be as early as the first century," but possibility must not be confused with probability.[139 (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html#139)] For this letter to have any value at all as a witness to the historicity of Jesus, it needs to have been written earlier rather than later, and there is simply no evidence that it was.
Yet another problem with Bar-Serapion's letter is its historical inaccuracies. In addition to the bogus claim that the Jews executed Jesus, Bar-Serapion's letter contains other errors. Till notes that the letter implies Pythagoras had been killed by his countrymen, yet "Pythagoras left the island of Samos in 530 B. C. and emigrated to the Greek colony of Croton in Southern Italy. He later died in Metapontum, which is now Metaponto, Italy."[140 (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html#140)] McDowell and Wilson admit that Mara Bar-Serapion's "information about Athens and Samos is inaccurate."[141 (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html#141)]
In closing, it is interesting to note that even Holding is forced to admit that "[t]his reference to Jesus is not particularly valuable."[142 (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html#142)] However, that is an understatement. Bar-Serapion's letter is virtually worthless as a witness to the historicity of Jesus: it does not provide independent confirmation.[143 (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jeff_lowder/jury/chap5.html#143)]
Print Edition: 1990-2002 The "Testimony" of Mara Bar-Serapion
by Farrell Till 1995 / July-August (TSReditor@iierrancy.com (TSReditor@iierrancy.com))
http://www.theskepticalreview.com/tsrmag/4mara95.html (http://www.theskepticalreview.com/tsrmag/4mara95.html)
The absence of extrabiblical evidence of the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth has long been an embarrassment to Christian apologists. In their defense of Christianity, early church fathers like Justin Martyr, Origen, Tertullian, and Clement of Alexandria cited from both Jewish and pagan sources evidences that they thought were supportive of Christianity, but they were unable to produce any secular testimony of the actual existence of Jesus. The frustrating truth was (and is) that secular records contemporary to the time that Jesus allegedly lived were completely silent about this man who presumably was so famous that great multitudes followed him during his personal ministry ( Matt. 4:24-25, 8:1, 18, 13:2, 15:30, 19:2, 21:9; Luke 5:15, Luke 14:25). Inasmuch as word of Jesus's works spread at least as far as Syria (according to the New Testament record) and attracted people from there to be cured of "divers diseases and torments" ( Matt. 4:24), one would think that historians of the time would have heard about the man and recorded at least some of this part of his life. But it didn't happen. Contemporary secular records don't even mention the man Jesus. It is as if historians would examine all records of the 4th century B. C. and find no references to Alexander the Great.
In our modern age of enlightenment, the fact that no indisputable testimony to the life of Jesus can be found outside of the New Testament and apocryphal documents (all of which were penned by obviously biased writers) continues to trouble Christian apologists, possibly more so than at any time in church history. In their frustration, they have resorted to some rather imaginative efforts to find Jesus of Nazareth in ancient secular records. One such effort has focused on a letter that may have been written toward the end of the first century.
The writer, Mara Bar-Serapion, was in prison at the time, and he wrote the letter to exhort his son to seek wisdom. The following quotation from the letter is sometimes cited as evidence that Jesus of Nazareth was mentioned in contemporary secular documents:
What advantage did the Athenians gain from putting Socrates to death? Famine and plague came upon them as a judgment for their crime. What advantage did the men of Samos gain from burning Pythagoras? In a moment their land was covered with sand. What advantage did the Jews gain from executing their wise king? It was just after that that their kingdom was abolished. God justly avenged these three wise men: the Athenians died of hunger; the Samians were overwhelmed by the sea; the Jews, ruined and driven from their land, live in complete dispersion. But Socrates did not die for good; he lived on in the teaching of Plato. Pythagoras did not die for good; he lived on in the statue of Hera. Nor did the wise king die for good; he lived on in the teaching which he had given (quoted by F. F. Bruce, The New Testament Documents: Are They Reliable? Eerdmans Publishing Co., Fifth Revised Edition, p. 114).
Bruce, an often-quoted Christian apologist, noted that this letter was "written some time later than A. D. 73, but how much later we cannot be sure" (Ibid.). He, of course, wants to see this letter as proof of the historicity of Jesus, but by his own admission, the document was written at least 40 years after the time that Jesus allegedly lived and possibly even later. Since Bar-Serapion made no claim in his letter that he had personally witnessed the execution of the "wise king" or had ever even seen him, his statement cannot in any sense be considered firsthand testimony of the historicity of Jesus, as Bruce and other apologists would like us to believe that it is.
We can't even be sure that Bar-Serapion was referring to Jesus. He didn't identify the "wise king" by name, as he did in the case of both Socrates and Pythagoras, so one merely speculates when he says that this is a first-century secular reference to Jesus. How does one make that determination? Messianic pretenders in Judea were a dime a dozen during the era of foreign domination. Josephus referred to some of them, and even the New Testament mentioned two of them in Gamaliel's speech to the Jewish council (Acts 5:35-36). In Bandits, Prophets, and Messiahs: Popular Movements at the Time of Jesus (Harper & Row, 1985), authors Richard Horsley and John Hanson tell of several Messianic prophets of this period besides Theudas and Judas of Galilee, whom Gamaliel mentioned in his speech. Some of these Messiahs were even named Jesus, and most of them came to ignominious ends at the hands ofeither the Romans or their own countrymen. How, then, do Bruce and other apologists who cite Mara Bar-Serapion's reference to a "wise king" who was executed by the Jews know for a fact that this was an allusion to Jesus of Nazareth and not to some other Messianic prophet of those times?
One could just as easily assume that Mara Bar-Serapion was referring to the Essene "Teacher of Righteousness," who was often mentioned in the Dead Sea scrolls found at Qumran. The person in these documents called the teacher of righteousness was presented as a Messianic figure who suffered vicariously for the people. Since Essene teachings were widely circulated before and after the time Jesus allegedly lived, one could argue that this teacher "lived on in the teaching which he had given." The point is that Mara Bar-Serapion simply did not identify the "wise king" whom the Jews had "executed," and in the absence of that information, one can only guess who this was supposed to be. F. F. Bruce and his inerrantist cohorts can't just arbitrarily make a vague statement like this into a reference to Jesus. They need proof that Bar-Serapion definitely meant Jesus, and they simply don't have it.
We should notice too the historical time frame of the characters that Bar-Serapion specifically identified by name. Socrates lived in the 5th century B. C. and Pythagoras in the 6th. One may legitimately wonder, then, if Bar-Serapion's "wise king" was someone who had lived about the same time as Socrates and Pythagoras rather than someone who had been "executed" centuries after their time. Bar-Serapion did say that "just after" the execution of their "wise king," the Jews had their kingdom abolished and were "ruined and driven from their land" to live "in complete dispersion," so he could very well have been referring to events close to the time of Pythagoras and Socrates when the Jews' kingdom was abolished by Nebuchadnezzar, after which the Jews were taken into Babylonian captivity and later dispersed in various countries, or he could even have been referring to a king in the northern kingdom of Israel, which was abolished by the Assyrian conquest of 722-721 B.C., after which the northern tribes were dispersed to Mesopotamia and Media, where they eventually lost their national identity. At any rate, if Bar-Serapion was using the word king literally, he had to be referring to someone who lived before the Babylonian conquest of Judea, because there simply were no "Jewish kings" after Zedekiah, whom Nebuchadnezzar installed as a puppet until he finally sacked Jerusalem in 586 B. C. and "abolished" the Jewish kingdom. So if the Jews had literally executed a "wise king," it had to have been someone who lived before that date.
There is just as much biblical evidence to support this view as there is for the apologetic claim that Bar-Serapion was referring to Jesus. The Bible itself recorded the political assassinations of Jewish royalty that occurred close enough to Nebuchadnezzar's capture of Jerusalem to consider the conquest of either Israel or Judea as an event that had happened "just after" the murder of one of these kings. Josiah's father, King Amon, for example, was assassinated less than 50 years before Nebuchadnezzar's siege of Jerusalem (2 Kings 21:23). Admittedly, the Bible didn't speak very flatteringly of Amon or of most of the other assassinated Jewish kings either for that matter, but in the absence of corroborating records, who can really know how objective the writers of biblical history were? At times, they seemed very political in their reporting. Who can know either what records and traditions Bar-Serapion may have known about that would have given him a different perspective of Jewish history than the ethnocentric views of the biblical writers? Furthermore, if Christian apologists are going to quibble that some biblical details do not fit the theory that Bar-Serapion's "wise king" was one of the kings of Israel or Judea assassinated before Jerusalem's fall to Nebuchadnezzar, they should admit that some biblical details don't fit their Jesus theory either. Where, for example, does the New Testament say that the Jews executed Jesus? It says that he was executed by the Romans. The New Testament also teaches that Judea was under foreign domination during the life of Jesus, so the Jews' kingdom wasn't abolished after Jesus was executed. It had been abolished long before then.
For the sake of argument, let's just assume that Bar-Serapion's letter was beyond all reasonable doubt referring to Jesus of Nazareth. Still it could not be considered reliable evidence that such a person had actually lived, because the letter contains factual errors. According to Bar-Serapion, the "men of Samos" had "burn[ed]" Pythagoras, an implication that he had been killed by his countrymen. In reality, Pythagoras left the island of Samos in 530 B. C. and emigrated to the Greek colony of Croton in Southern Italy. He later died in Metapontum, which is now Metaponto, Italy (Encyclopedia Americana, 1994, Vol. 23, p. 45). The men of Samos did not "burn" Pythagoras, so if Mara Bar-Serapion's letter was incorrect in such an important detail as this, how can it be considered reliable proof of the historicity of anything, much less the existence of a person who wasn't even mentioned by name in the document?
We might also ask what Mara Bar-Serapion meant in saying that Pythagoras "lived on in the statue of Hera." What statue of Hera? Hera was the sister and wife of Zeus, so there were undoubtedly many statues of her in the Greek culture of the 6th century B. C. What exactly did Bar-Serapion mean? When was the island of Samos covered with sand "in a moment," and when did the famine and plague come upon the Athenians after their crime against Socrates? History knows of no events as calamitous as these that Bar-Serapion referred to. To say the least, there is a lot of vagueness and uncertainty in this document.
Christian apologists will have to keep looking, because they have certainly found no proof of the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth in Mara Bar-Serapion's letter.
EDITOR'S NOTE: Sharon Williams with whom I have debated the historical Jesus and other biblical subjects through several letters published in The Pekin (Illinois) Daily Times, was sent an advanced copy of this article and invited to respond to it. She declined on the grounds that she did not want to be mistreated in TSR.
Helpful information: http://www.thedevineevidence.com/jesus_history.html
Farrell & Lowder,
1) It would seem to me the two individuals mentioned in the Bible who you considered candidates for Mara's wise king don't apply because Mara would be talking about the victoriously king, and Jesus is the one who succeeded in gaining a following more than any other at that time.
2) And since Mara talked about a dispersion when was there a dispersion but 70 AD? So the Teacher of Righteousness in the Dead Sea Scrolls would not apply because that was 170 yeas before the dispersion talked about by Mara.
3) You make a good point about there being no contemporary non-Christian sources, but since you admit there were many miracle workers at the time, two others you mentioned in the Bible, but you don't hear about them from secular sources either, you can't have it both ways! Please correct me if I am wrong on this point. I just think it is wrong to have a doublestandard. Yes, Jesus reached through Syria, but still that was not that much more of an area compared to the known world. I think writers at the time were concerned with political issues. Religious leaders were not that interesting to writers as they were you admit "a dime a dozen."
4) You misused the phrase "just after" because it follows the comment of the Jews not Socrates, and since Mara wrote shortly after 70 AD it is in the time frame of his experience. In writing to his son, he is pulling wisdom from age old past to apply to his time and his recent experience. The time of Jesus and 70 AD fall within the time of recent experience compared to hundreds of years before for Socrates and Pythagoras. The emphasis was on the wise King of the Jews, their Messiah.
5) In trying to apply "just after" to a dispersion of Israel from the end of their slavery in Babylon under Nebuchadnezzar, Israel returned backed to their homeland. They weren't dispersed to the nations were they?
6) You said no king applies to Israel after their Babylon captivity as they were just puppets. He was a wise King (Jesus was mocked by the Romans as The King of the Jews, the messianic prophecies fulfilled by Jesus referred to the coming Messiah as a king, Christian believers believed Jesus was their promised spiritual king, and Jesus was born from the royal line of King David).
7) Mara was talking to his son to give him wisdom, but you said these other kings were unrighteous according to the Bible.
8) The Bible makes no bones about the Jews causing the death of Jesus. The Jews were under Roman domination which restricted their ability to execute capital punishment. The Jews rallied the Roman government to crucify Jesus for the crime of blasphemy as they did not have the legal power to do so. Even the Bible mentions Pilate's reluctance to punish an innocent man but that he allowed it to take place to prevent a Jewish revolt in an already hostile environment.
9) As for Pythagoras' death, there are two theories (one which implies burning). They agree that around 500 BC, there was an uprising against the Pythagoreans and the city of Croton was pillaged and burned. Pythagoras fled and was either caught and killed by rebels when he refused to cross a bean field, or managed to make his way to Metapontum (on the coast of Italy), where he took refuge in the Temple of the Muses and eventually died of starvation.
10) Pythagoras was born on the Greek island of Samos, site of a "monumental" temple to Hera, queen of the Olympian gods. All Mara is saying I think is he is giving glory to that great statue on the island where he lived. His memory lives on through this statue of this temple.
11) Samos has flooding problems so it gets covered with sand from the flooding. There could have been one particular flood following the burning of Pythagoras that was greater than usual. You might be able to find it in ancient literature.
12) I don't have time to check on plagues and famines the Athenians endured in their relation to mistreating Socrates. But I have no doubt God uses nature to punish the wicked.
13) Mara's letter to his son represents independent confirmation. He is not relying on someone else, but this is his true beliefs that the Jews killed their wise King Jesus Christ. He deeply knows this to be true, and only Jesus fits the bill. The best explanatory scope (http://biblocality.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2878&highlight=explanatory+scope) and really the only option is Mara is talking about Jesus who has become more widely known, e.g. secular writers are writing about Jesus also, such as Tacitus from Roman records rather than hearsay (when it is hearsay, Tacitus qualifies it as being hearsay as his standard practice, so he had a legitimate source either an eyewitness or Roman records which is nonetheless still secondary). A better secondary source would by Polycarp who said he was a student of John or Clement of Rome who knew Peter personally. Clement of Rome, Polycarp and Ignatius all report on Paul.