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Churchwork
11-26-2008, 07:10 PM
If you, as a calvinist, can't explain away these apparent contradictions of calvinism, then shouldn't you repent of calvinism, and give your life to Christ if you are not saved already, or if you are already saved, then simply repent and confess before men God's way of saving which is osas arminian?

1) "...we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe" (1 Tim. 4.10). "Since we believe that Christ died for everyone, we [Christians] also believe that we [Christians] have all died to the old life we used to live" (2 Cor. 5.14). 1 Tim. 4.10a reads, "We work hard and suffer much in order that people will believe the truth".

Are there people who are saved who don't believe? If not, then realize Jesus is the Savior of all men, since He died for everyone's sins, the sins of the whole world. Would it be wrong to share the gospel with someone who Jesus didn't die for? (In John 3 Jesus pleads with Nicodemus to receive forgiveness of sins and eternal life.)

2) "Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved" (Acts 16.30-31).

Where does it say in this verse that the person has to be regenerated first before he can believe? Regeneration (saved) followed believing in this verse, and why plead for your salvation if you didn't have the free-choice to accept the cross?

3) "Willingly offered a freewill offering unto the Lord" (Ezra 3.5).

How is free will not really free will? If the explanation of free will offering is the answer willingly, how can the answer be something else?

4) "If any man...whosoever will, let him take of the water of life freely" (John 7.37; Rev. 22.17). Paul said, "we persuade men..." (2 Cor. 5.11).

Does not God plead with all to be saved? Why would God plead with someone to be saved if he was made for Hell without recourse or for Heaven without the option to refuse God? If Nicodemus could not receive salvation because he was predestinated for Hell, then what was Jesus doing pleading with him to receive the gift of salvation?

Churchwork
11-27-2008, 10:59 PM
FACTS OF CALVINISM

FACT: There are no verses in the Bible for total depravity. Calvinists confuse verses that speak of propensity to sin as being total inability, which is silly since people choose good things all the time. What we have to fear most are the legalizers.

FACT: There are no verses in the Bible for people performing their own salvation. Calvinists confuse free will for performance, which is silly since God does the saving and provides the condition offered to us (see Abel's free will offering).

FACT: There are no verses in the Bible that deny all the verses that God pleads with men's salvation. Calvinists reject God's love to do this and be able to do this. They must worship another.

FACT: There are no verses in the Bible that Jesus didn't die for the sins of all mankind. Calvinists confuse His universal atonement (He dies for everyone, but not everyone receives Him, so only the elect are saved) for a limited one. The god of calvinism is very limited in his ability. He must predestinate them to be able to foreknow them.

FACT: There are no verses in the Bible God sends people to Hell without recourse, choice or opportunity. Calvinists confuse God's desire to save all with a desire to send people to hell, without the option, as His good pleasure. What love is this?

FACT: There are no verses the elect had no choice in the matter to be saved. Calvinists confuse election as being unconditional against their will, forced, coerced and like robots, total inability to reject the cross. That's crazy! Coocoo!