Churchwork
08-25-2008, 02:17 AM
Word up on Dana Roberts (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/danaroberts.htm) and G. Richard Fisher (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/richardfisherexposed.htm)! The reason they are on a witch hunt is because Watchman Nee's (CFP & CLC) words convict them. Understand their motivations. What convicts Dana? The same thing that convicts G. Richard Fisher. Dana Roberts and G. Richard Fisher are both unsaved. This is easily seen with the greatest emphasis proving their unsalvation in the third (how God saves) and fourth points (if they hold the amillennial view) and bearing false witness (making up stuff). The other points together show that they are carnal.
What are they against? Scriptural locality (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/bodyofchrist.htm) (biblocality). When you see the church addressed in Scripture it is to a locality of believers, e.g. church of Ephesus in the churches of Asia Minor or the church of Antioch in the churches of Syria. They deny these verses.
What else? We clearly have a spirit, soul and body (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/SMCFP.htm); that is, we have an intuitive conscience which is the function of our spirit in communion with God. Watchman Nee clearly proved this in the book, The Spiritual Man (CFP) with many verses. We also have a soul with its proper functions of mind, will and emotion. God wants you to walk first and foremost by your spirit, not your soul. The purpose of the mind is to aid the spirit, not to smother the spirit. Dana and Richard are lost in their souls: hence they are wrong all the time and on a rationalizing rampage in their soulical selves (see the definition of soulical (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Christianity.htm)).
How does God save? He predestinates by foreknowing our free-choice (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/randomly_chosen_calvinists.htm): a conditional election, unlimited atonement, resistible grace, for preservation of the saints (OSAS). Both Dana and Richard reject God's way of saving, for they are both calvinists believing in total depravity in which for them their god saves them by making them believe without first regard for their choice like robots and sending others to hell also not giving them the choice either. Crazy eh? Obviously, God can do better than that. The highly respected Dave Hunt calls this false reformation of calvinism unsalvation and wrote a book exposing all 5 points of calvinism, called "What Love is This?" Watchman Nee and Dave Hunt are osas arminians and they have genius IQ's. It is rare to find people that intelligent with also such a devotion and deep walk in the Holy Spirit. Watchman Nee had a photographic memory.
The premillennial view is the correct one, but more precisely partial rapture is the correct view since first rapture is according to readiness. Find out if Richard and Dana even accept premillennialism and there is your answer. There are negative consequences also to being pretrib or posttrib onlyists (http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=b69d013d2cfebc1ac2f9) (see video). Each step of the way Nee preserves the Word of God in view of these attacks on him by Dana and Richard, so now they try to fabricate things that are purported to have happened over 60 years ago, presumably for the first time now made aware to the public. Funny eh? I am sure in hundreds of years from now if they could they would come up with others stuff like a rabbit out of magic hat. Don't underestimate the evil of the flesh.
Next we address the false creation view of Dana Roberts and G. Richard Fisher. Suffice it to say though they can't disprove the restoration of creation (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/mystery.htm) Nee proved so well in God's Word, this is another point of contention for them.
That about covers it. What these two false Christians try to do is sin bearing false witness, but in replies to them, we have been able to show in detail (various pages (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Misreading.htm)) how they manipulate the scene to ensconce themselves in misrepresentation all the while concealing their own false teachings as much as possible. Such diversionary tactics might fool some, but not all of us.
I assure you Dana Roberts and G. Richard Fisher have never been born-again up to the time of this writing. When you have so many false teachings and attack to my knowledge the most spiritual Christian since the first century, you got yourself a big problem.
Praise the Lord for this discernment!
Troy Brooks
What are they against? Scriptural locality (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/bodyofchrist.htm) (biblocality). When you see the church addressed in Scripture it is to a locality of believers, e.g. church of Ephesus in the churches of Asia Minor or the church of Antioch in the churches of Syria. They deny these verses.
What else? We clearly have a spirit, soul and body (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/SMCFP.htm); that is, we have an intuitive conscience which is the function of our spirit in communion with God. Watchman Nee clearly proved this in the book, The Spiritual Man (CFP) with many verses. We also have a soul with its proper functions of mind, will and emotion. God wants you to walk first and foremost by your spirit, not your soul. The purpose of the mind is to aid the spirit, not to smother the spirit. Dana and Richard are lost in their souls: hence they are wrong all the time and on a rationalizing rampage in their soulical selves (see the definition of soulical (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Christianity.htm)).
How does God save? He predestinates by foreknowing our free-choice (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/randomly_chosen_calvinists.htm): a conditional election, unlimited atonement, resistible grace, for preservation of the saints (OSAS). Both Dana and Richard reject God's way of saving, for they are both calvinists believing in total depravity in which for them their god saves them by making them believe without first regard for their choice like robots and sending others to hell also not giving them the choice either. Crazy eh? Obviously, God can do better than that. The highly respected Dave Hunt calls this false reformation of calvinism unsalvation and wrote a book exposing all 5 points of calvinism, called "What Love is This?" Watchman Nee and Dave Hunt are osas arminians and they have genius IQ's. It is rare to find people that intelligent with also such a devotion and deep walk in the Holy Spirit. Watchman Nee had a photographic memory.
The premillennial view is the correct one, but more precisely partial rapture is the correct view since first rapture is according to readiness. Find out if Richard and Dana even accept premillennialism and there is your answer. There are negative consequences also to being pretrib or posttrib onlyists (http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=b69d013d2cfebc1ac2f9) (see video). Each step of the way Nee preserves the Word of God in view of these attacks on him by Dana and Richard, so now they try to fabricate things that are purported to have happened over 60 years ago, presumably for the first time now made aware to the public. Funny eh? I am sure in hundreds of years from now if they could they would come up with others stuff like a rabbit out of magic hat. Don't underestimate the evil of the flesh.
Next we address the false creation view of Dana Roberts and G. Richard Fisher. Suffice it to say though they can't disprove the restoration of creation (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/mystery.htm) Nee proved so well in God's Word, this is another point of contention for them.
That about covers it. What these two false Christians try to do is sin bearing false witness, but in replies to them, we have been able to show in detail (various pages (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Misreading.htm)) how they manipulate the scene to ensconce themselves in misrepresentation all the while concealing their own false teachings as much as possible. Such diversionary tactics might fool some, but not all of us.
I assure you Dana Roberts and G. Richard Fisher have never been born-again up to the time of this writing. When you have so many false teachings and attack to my knowledge the most spiritual Christian since the first century, you got yourself a big problem.
Praise the Lord for this discernment!
Troy Brooks