Churchwork
07-01-2007, 01:23 AM
Listen very carefully because it is a matter of salvation and eternal life or eternal separation from your creator to be sent to hell:
1) Nothing in nature happens all by itself (we only have trillions of examples of causes), so nature does not cause itself, nor if there is a supernatural can it cause itself either, because a chain of causal events in the supernatural do not just start up all by itself. Hence, we must conclude the uncreated creator created, since no other known possibility exist. This is further substantiated by the fact there is an exponential progression in conscience which tells us there would then not be an eternity of the past of cause and effects since sin still exists (yes, you go to jail if you sin a sin that warrants going to jail), so there had to have been an uncreated creator. Yes, the exponential progression exists, because child sacrifices which were so prevalent in ancient times (and many other examples given in the 4 Step Proof for God of the Bible (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/perfectproof.htm)) have decreased on a per capita basis. You are a sinner in need of salvation. Sin leads to death and the second death which is hell, a conscious awareness of separation from God and His people for forever. In other words, you are out of God's joy and He does not want to have fellowship with you, because you prefer to remain in your sin nature (very selfish).
2) By comparison we know the creator, then, is Jesus Christ because nobody can compare to Him. He walked on earth (most scholars are sure about this-there is just too much corroborating evidence and Jesus is perhaps the most well documented person in antiquity), said He is God (a necessary requirement), gave His life for your sins (very personal) and He is multiply attested by eyewitness accounts (vital): by John, Peter, James, Jude, Matthew, Paul, and possibly Mark. Luke is a second hand witness but as close to first hand as you can get. His resurrection was witnessed by 12 different group settings (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/12groups.htm). Many other people are mentioned who are said to have seen Jesus, talked to Him and experienced His teachings, which could have all been discounted if it was untrue, by someone saying this did not happen to them this way or at all. Paul said you can check these things out for yourself from the other apostles that said they saw Jesus too. There were more than just 12, but many apostles. Paul, which scholars almost unanimously find him to be the most convincing, said he met with James (family skeptic who was saved after he saw his brother Jesus resurrected), John and Peter the apostles on several occasions to ensure they agreed on the teaching of the Word of God and their same testimony of eyewitness accounts of the ministry of Jesus and His resurrection. Outsider skeptics who never converted like Paul did are well in number. We have 17 early source documents to show non-Christians knew about Jesus too, even though they did not see him personally, such as Mara, Tacitus, Josephus, Lucian, and the Talmud. We have many more Christian writers as well in addition to the Bible that either knew the eyewitness apostles, or someone who did.
3) Since the non-believer cannot find an alternative explanation, that is with some evidences or support in some way, we must conclude such souls are going to hell as indicated in God's Word-the 66 books of the Bible. They are going to hell because they prefer to remain independent from their creator, and that is their choice. Otherwise, there would be no free-will. Our prayers go out to them.
1) Nothing in nature happens all by itself (we only have trillions of examples of causes), so nature does not cause itself, nor if there is a supernatural can it cause itself either, because a chain of causal events in the supernatural do not just start up all by itself. Hence, we must conclude the uncreated creator created, since no other known possibility exist. This is further substantiated by the fact there is an exponential progression in conscience which tells us there would then not be an eternity of the past of cause and effects since sin still exists (yes, you go to jail if you sin a sin that warrants going to jail), so there had to have been an uncreated creator. Yes, the exponential progression exists, because child sacrifices which were so prevalent in ancient times (and many other examples given in the 4 Step Proof for God of the Bible (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/perfectproof.htm)) have decreased on a per capita basis. You are a sinner in need of salvation. Sin leads to death and the second death which is hell, a conscious awareness of separation from God and His people for forever. In other words, you are out of God's joy and He does not want to have fellowship with you, because you prefer to remain in your sin nature (very selfish).
2) By comparison we know the creator, then, is Jesus Christ because nobody can compare to Him. He walked on earth (most scholars are sure about this-there is just too much corroborating evidence and Jesus is perhaps the most well documented person in antiquity), said He is God (a necessary requirement), gave His life for your sins (very personal) and He is multiply attested by eyewitness accounts (vital): by John, Peter, James, Jude, Matthew, Paul, and possibly Mark. Luke is a second hand witness but as close to first hand as you can get. His resurrection was witnessed by 12 different group settings (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/12groups.htm). Many other people are mentioned who are said to have seen Jesus, talked to Him and experienced His teachings, which could have all been discounted if it was untrue, by someone saying this did not happen to them this way or at all. Paul said you can check these things out for yourself from the other apostles that said they saw Jesus too. There were more than just 12, but many apostles. Paul, which scholars almost unanimously find him to be the most convincing, said he met with James (family skeptic who was saved after he saw his brother Jesus resurrected), John and Peter the apostles on several occasions to ensure they agreed on the teaching of the Word of God and their same testimony of eyewitness accounts of the ministry of Jesus and His resurrection. Outsider skeptics who never converted like Paul did are well in number. We have 17 early source documents to show non-Christians knew about Jesus too, even though they did not see him personally, such as Mara, Tacitus, Josephus, Lucian, and the Talmud. We have many more Christian writers as well in addition to the Bible that either knew the eyewitness apostles, or someone who did.
3) Since the non-believer cannot find an alternative explanation, that is with some evidences or support in some way, we must conclude such souls are going to hell as indicated in God's Word-the 66 books of the Bible. They are going to hell because they prefer to remain independent from their creator, and that is their choice. Otherwise, there would be no free-will. Our prayers go out to them.