Nottheworld
03-15-2007, 02:32 PM
There are lots of false Christians out there, nearer than you might think. I think it has been well established Witness Lee was not a Christian due to his various false teachings/false fruits:
- violent screaming mantra (not in the Bible);
- suing Christians for faith (not in the Bible);
- teaching calvinism...claiming they were saved first causing them to believe without first regard for their choice, to come out of total depravity (not in the Bible);
- modalism: saying the Godhead is a Person and that the Father is the Son;
- calling himself and his people God (not in the Bible) like Mormons do;
- altering Watchman Nee's writings (many examples can be given) as proven such as in TSM by changing one of 3 major aspects of emotion of desire to hate (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Spiritual_Man.htm)-apparently you are not suppose to have desire in the LSM cult (and so, breaking one of the ten commandments-bearing false witness against Watchman Nee); and suggesting Watchman Nee might agree with these other false teachings of Lee's cult that came along later listed here after Nee was jailed for life, for Nee was osas arminian not calvinist like thebereans.net and the LSM adherents, and Nee was a Trinitarian and never called himself God;
- false locality, that is, they have no apostles in agreement appointing elders of a locality, but rather a central hub system selling its own particular products to its outlets generically for filthy lucre (not in the Bible, for the highest administration are regional apostles, and the reason for this is God gives no men such higher power as is with denominational hierarchies which divide the body of Christ falsely. The Bible says don't say you are in a denom by saying "I of Cephas" or "I of Apollos," or a "I of Christ" non-denom or multi-denom "I of Cephas and I of Apollos and "I of Christ"). The only basis for dividing the body of Christ in the Scriptures is according to Biblical locality as the church unit, no more, no less, e.g. church of Ephesus in the churches of Asia Minor of the church of Jerusalem in the churches of Judea or the church of Dallas in the churches of Texas, etc. The reason God does this is if there are any problems they are contained locally and not spread denominationally which can cross states, countries and continents. How wise God is!
Other concerns are periphery in nature.
Now, considering these facts, the reasonable question that should come to mind flowing from this information is why try to marry Nee to Lee? Since they are quite unalike and no similarity can be found in particular that is damaging, we must conclude that those who try do so have themselves false teaching that does not agree with Watchman Nee and Nee's writings expose them as does the Word of God since Nee agrees with the Word.
Wow!
See (please respond if any of this information is misleading or incorrect as we are after the truth here):
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/bereans.htm
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/StanfordAmatoMartyr.htm (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/StanfordAmatoMartyr.htm)
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/cephasbereancall.htm (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/cephasbereancall.htm)
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/bereans_censoring.htm (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/bereans_censoring.htm)
Since what has just been said cannot be disproven and strong evidence makes the case, then it stands!
- violent screaming mantra (not in the Bible);
- suing Christians for faith (not in the Bible);
- teaching calvinism...claiming they were saved first causing them to believe without first regard for their choice, to come out of total depravity (not in the Bible);
- modalism: saying the Godhead is a Person and that the Father is the Son;
- calling himself and his people God (not in the Bible) like Mormons do;
- altering Watchman Nee's writings (many examples can be given) as proven such as in TSM by changing one of 3 major aspects of emotion of desire to hate (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Spiritual_Man.htm)-apparently you are not suppose to have desire in the LSM cult (and so, breaking one of the ten commandments-bearing false witness against Watchman Nee); and suggesting Watchman Nee might agree with these other false teachings of Lee's cult that came along later listed here after Nee was jailed for life, for Nee was osas arminian not calvinist like thebereans.net and the LSM adherents, and Nee was a Trinitarian and never called himself God;
- false locality, that is, they have no apostles in agreement appointing elders of a locality, but rather a central hub system selling its own particular products to its outlets generically for filthy lucre (not in the Bible, for the highest administration are regional apostles, and the reason for this is God gives no men such higher power as is with denominational hierarchies which divide the body of Christ falsely. The Bible says don't say you are in a denom by saying "I of Cephas" or "I of Apollos," or a "I of Christ" non-denom or multi-denom "I of Cephas and I of Apollos and "I of Christ"). The only basis for dividing the body of Christ in the Scriptures is according to Biblical locality as the church unit, no more, no less, e.g. church of Ephesus in the churches of Asia Minor of the church of Jerusalem in the churches of Judea or the church of Dallas in the churches of Texas, etc. The reason God does this is if there are any problems they are contained locally and not spread denominationally which can cross states, countries and continents. How wise God is!
Other concerns are periphery in nature.
Now, considering these facts, the reasonable question that should come to mind flowing from this information is why try to marry Nee to Lee? Since they are quite unalike and no similarity can be found in particular that is damaging, we must conclude that those who try do so have themselves false teaching that does not agree with Watchman Nee and Nee's writings expose them as does the Word of God since Nee agrees with the Word.
Wow!
See (please respond if any of this information is misleading or incorrect as we are after the truth here):
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/bereans.htm
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/StanfordAmatoMartyr.htm (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/StanfordAmatoMartyr.htm)
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/cephasbereancall.htm (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/cephasbereancall.htm)
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/bereans_censoring.htm (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/bereans_censoring.htm)
Since what has just been said cannot be disproven and strong evidence makes the case, then it stands!