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Churchwork
01-03-2006, 09:21 PM
I have found the biggest blocking point for calvinists is they do not appreciate the holiness of God longing to see the man make the choice and come to the cross to receive God's free gift of salvation. Such a choice given to man made in God's image gives glory to God.

How can we help calvinists see that in our being made in God's image, God does not premake us for salvation, but through His infinite foreknowledge He predestinates us by forseeing (Rom. 8.29) the choice we will make, whether we come to that eternal cross or not?

God wants to be with those who choose which He then graces with His life, not those who claim they are robots premade or preprogrammed that way for salvation and not for hell, so they think. This would be satanic grace; and those who believe in God's way, once-saved-always-saved and arminian, do not know this salvation of being premade cold machines.

God wants to give salvation authentically, so knowing this, how can we help calvinists for that is the purpose here? Any suggestions?

I'll offer one solution. They need to see the difference between totally deprave (a horrible legalism), which is false, and our fallen nature which is our true condition. The difference is the passivity of claiming we are no longer made in God's image in total depravity, which prevents us from being made in God's image, in their view, to be able to come to the cross to receive God's grace, and so they do not claim the glory of God, but instead simply said they were made that way - a heady salvation not reaching into the spirit of man. This is very evil!

This evil comes through by the way of acceptance of evil spirits' lies, passivity and an unrenewed mind. These are the three ways in which ground was lost. This produces an improper mind, misunderstanding of God's truth, accepting suggestions, producing a blank and passive mind.

God does not give salvation arbitrarily irresistibly, limitedly, or unconditionally, but rather in the universal atonement offered, if man refuses God's grace he can resist the conditional offer of God's free gift. May these words help lost souls.

Any other suggestions to help calvinists become undeceived?

Why can't calvinists repent from calvinism? - the pride of believing they were premade for salvation like robots, and preprogrammed to to believe, so they think? Why can't calvinists see this does not glorify God of the Bible?

Why can't calvinists love God's will to walk with those whom He predestinates by foreseeing come to the cross as helpless sinners, not by premaking us that way? Experientially Christians have discovered calvinists are blocked from accepting the truth: their consciences do not seem to have been quickened and thus will-worship in their depravity of their outer man by their own strength.

God has infinite foreknowledge of when to give eternal life which is eternal at new birth. And though man is fallen he is not totally deprave, otherwise he could never choose the cross that God asks us to choose (John 3.16,18), from being made in the image of God, so He will save. Man is required to do his part and God does His part. This is how the redemptive design has been designed.

For anyone who has read this will you pray with me for the calvinists? Let us pray for them so they be delivered. Even one lost soul is a great loss.

Stephen
01-07-2006, 07:43 AM
A subject which we do not hear much about these days when talking of church, is that of Repentance. Repentance is a subject, and a condition brought about in the heart of men by the Holy Spirit. There are references to repentance throughout scripture, but mainly in the N.T and within the compass of the ministry of Jesus.

We could quote many, but one that comes to mind is Mk 2:17 Jesus speaking says that "he did not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance" He came to "call" ...........to repentance. Have we ever responded the call to "Repent".

The English Dictionary gives the meaning of repentance as "sorrow for sin" "penitance" "contrition" Strong gives the meaning "to reconsider" "think diferently" "reformation"

We enter the Door of Salvation through the experience of repentance. Humility is the sister repentance, and you cannot have one without the other.

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