Faithful
09-15-2006, 09:01 PM
The Second Death Effects
"He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death" (Rev. 2:11)?
Why is this condition given to Christians that some will overcometh and some will not?
How then do some Christians get hurt by the second death?
Some Bible versions read this way:
“He shall never see death” (John 8:51,52) is actually “he shall not forever see death” in the original, and “he shall never taste of death” is “he shall not forever taste death” in the original.
“They shall never perish” (John 10:28) is “they shall not forever perish” in the original.
“Shall never die” (John 11:25,26) is “shall not forever die” in the original.
So does this mean that though a Christian can't lose eternal life and though he can't go to hell, the fire of hell would burn off the dross of his vain works before being cast into outer darkness to lose the rewards of the millennium?
I heard it said like this:
Two painters are painting a house (similar to the 5 wise virgins and 5 unwise virgins). They are both saved painters. One is sloppy, the other is not sloppy. The sloppy one needs to drench himself in gasoline which stings to take off the paint all over himself (vain painting) before he can be washed by outer darkness for 1000 years.
The second painter (who behaved more closely like the second Man Christ) was careful and kept himself clean because he was watchful so at judgment seat he didn't need the sting of the gasoline (like the hurt of the second death); thereby, he he could enter into the millennium for he filled his vessels up with oil and had used his paint properly.
The first painter had to use the gasoline so that he could be presentable to outer darkness for 1000 years as his discipline. There was no fire or furnace in outer darkness otherwise the gasoline used at judgment seat would have burned him, and God would not do that to His children.
Fortunately the combination in sequence of events of the second death and outer darkness do what they are meant to do on the believer's side, and he will be ready for the new city when the millennial reign of Christ is finished on Earth.
On the non-believer's side, the unsaved soul has no portion in outer darkness or the new city, but shall be strictly preserved in the second death which is hell (consciously, spirit, soul and body), eternally separate from God.
So you see God uses hell for believers in one way, but for the unsaved it is used in another way.
"He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death" (Rev. 2:11)?
Why is this condition given to Christians that some will overcometh and some will not?
How then do some Christians get hurt by the second death?
Some Bible versions read this way:
“He shall never see death” (John 8:51,52) is actually “he shall not forever see death” in the original, and “he shall never taste of death” is “he shall not forever taste death” in the original.
“They shall never perish” (John 10:28) is “they shall not forever perish” in the original.
“Shall never die” (John 11:25,26) is “shall not forever die” in the original.
So does this mean that though a Christian can't lose eternal life and though he can't go to hell, the fire of hell would burn off the dross of his vain works before being cast into outer darkness to lose the rewards of the millennium?
I heard it said like this:
Two painters are painting a house (similar to the 5 wise virgins and 5 unwise virgins). They are both saved painters. One is sloppy, the other is not sloppy. The sloppy one needs to drench himself in gasoline which stings to take off the paint all over himself (vain painting) before he can be washed by outer darkness for 1000 years.
The second painter (who behaved more closely like the second Man Christ) was careful and kept himself clean because he was watchful so at judgment seat he didn't need the sting of the gasoline (like the hurt of the second death); thereby, he he could enter into the millennium for he filled his vessels up with oil and had used his paint properly.
The first painter had to use the gasoline so that he could be presentable to outer darkness for 1000 years as his discipline. There was no fire or furnace in outer darkness otherwise the gasoline used at judgment seat would have burned him, and God would not do that to His children.
Fortunately the combination in sequence of events of the second death and outer darkness do what they are meant to do on the believer's side, and he will be ready for the new city when the millennial reign of Christ is finished on Earth.
On the non-believer's side, the unsaved soul has no portion in outer darkness or the new city, but shall be strictly preserved in the second death which is hell (consciously, spirit, soul and body), eternally separate from God.
So you see God uses hell for believers in one way, but for the unsaved it is used in another way.