Be Reconciled - Matt. 5.21-26

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The earthly controlled RCC works of indulgence promises to reduce time in purgatory is not of God, nor is there a purgatory as described by the RCC. Such promises by a man made organization with baptism, paying penance money, confirmation rites, High and Low Mass, Eucharest, extreme unction, matrimony and holy orders sacraments is a mass control mechanism.

This indulgence after absolution formula of Absolution - Indulgence = time to spend in Purgatory is not accurate under the auspices of a man made organization determining and declaring such things (great harlot of Religous Rome, Rev. 17, 14.8).

Because of this underlying fault, there may in fact be no remission of sins, and thus the loss of rewards will be exacerbated. The church operates according to Biblical locality, not corporation-style structures such as the RCC with heirarchy that exceeds the church in independent localities.

Watchman Nee writes,

“Be reconciled”—Matthew 5.21-26

vv.21-22 The judgment in verse 22 is of the same kind as the judgment in verse 21. Though it is not the judgment of the Jewish court, it nonetheless proceeds from the preliminary judgment given at the city gate to the judgment of the council until it finally reaches the very judgment of God. These words are spoken to Christians. Due to the fact that those who stood before Him at that moment were Jews, the Lord naturally used expressions with a Jewish background.

“Angry” is a boiling up within. Mark records that our Lord got angry. The Bible has not taught that all angers will be judged. It only states that some angers offend brethren as well as God. The verse “Be ye angry, and sin not; let not the sun go down upon your wrath” in Ephesians 4.26 is suggesting for us not to be angry to the extent of sinning nor to be controlled by anger. Also, there is a time limit to any anger: one ought to control his temper.

Why equate anger with killing? Because frequently it is only our position or physical environment or ethical teaching that keeps us from actually killing; but the thought of killing is already conceived in our heart.
Since judgment is mentioned here, how can we say that Christians will not be judged at all? We cannot agree with some people who advocate the theory of no judgment for Christians. The word “brother” is used here and the demands are high here—all indications that these words are not addressed to non-believers.

The Presbyterians, the Episcopalians, and the Brethren follow the thought of John Calvin, who promoted the teaching that salvation is predestinated and that therefore all who are saved will never perish. On the other hand, the Methodists and some of the Pentecostals follow the teaching of Arminius, who stressed the position that man has a free will. Seeing from the Bible that many Christians do fall or have fallen, the Arminians today uphold the view that Christians may yet perish.

Though Calvin seems to have gained the upper hand in his exalting of God, it must also be said that Arminius has his ground too. I do not believe we should overturn a concept which seems to have less scriptural support (the Arminian) with a concept that apparently has more scriptural support (the Calvinistic). On the contrary, we should put all the Scriptures together and let the Scriptures themselves decide all issues.

“They shall never perish,” says the Lord (John 10.28). Eternity exists before the creation of the heavens and the earth, and it extends beyond the events of the book of Revelation. In between these two is the temporary period which can also be called time. Between creation and the events of the book of Revelation Christians may receive punishment during this period. In 2 Corinthians 5 we read: “we must all be made manifest before the judgment-seat of Christ; that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he hath done, whether it be good or bad” (v.10). Some will receive bad recompense. If this is not punishment, what is it? Likewise, Luke 12 states: “And that servant, who knew his lord’s will, and made not ready, nor did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes; but he that knew not, and did things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. And to whomsoever much is given, of him shall much be required: and to whom they commit much, of him will they ask the more” (vv.47-48). The beating is before the judgment seat. It incurs not only the loss of reward but also the possibility of being beaten. With regard to the words “suffer loss” in 1 Corinthians 3.15 someone has said that any loss without the inflicting of suffering cannot be reckoned as the suffering of loss. The consequence of “abide not” is to “cast them into the fire” (John 15.6). This without a doubt speaks of punishment. Revelation 2.11 declares: “He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death”; in other words, he who does not overcome will be hurt of the second death. Who shall reign with Christ for a thousand years? The answer: “Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: over these the second death hath no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years” (Rev. 20.6).

According to the original rendering of John 10.28, “they shall never perish” should be translated “in no wise shall they perish for ever”∗—in other words, if believers should sin and fail to repent, they will suffer temporarily what the unbelievers will suffer eternally.

Purgatory as promoted by the Roman Catholic Church commences, in its view, at the time of death; and indulgence is promised by the Church through the Mass and other means.

∗See The Englishman’s Greek New Testament with Interlinear Translation (London, Samuel Bagster and Sons, Ltd., 3rd ed., n.d.).—Translator

To this thought we vigorously object. Nevertheless, we cannot use heresy, either, to oppose the fact that Christians may receive punishment. We can only rely on the Scriptures to prove that the Matthew passage before us has reference to the judgment-seat of Christ.

One sister in the Lord has said it well: Sin in an unbeliever is sin, but so too is sin in a believer sin.

Robert Govett translates “raca” in verse 22 as “useless”; others, as “stupid” or “worthless”. “Moreh” (v.22 mg.) is probably Syrian, and it is more appropriate to translate it as “rebel”. Judging by the context, calling a brother “raca” is a deeper reaction than getting angry with a brother, and the judgment of scolding a brother by using the term moreh is stronger than all, even to the extent of placing oneself “in danger of the hell of fire”. Hence the meaning of moreh must be weightier than that of raca. If racy means stupid, moreh, according to G. H. Pember, should mean rebel.

The very mentioning of the hell of fire here indicates that Christians may not escape judgment. This situation cannot be applied to unbelievers, for they do not go to hell just because they denounce people.

v.23 This is not offering sacrifice, but offering gifts. Offering sacrifice is for the sake of sin; offering gifts is to please God, an action completely dissociated from sin. “Hath aught against thee” shows that the person has done something wrong.

v.24 The demand here is several times stronger than what is required in the Old Testament. Not only the person and the gift must be right, even the spiritual condition must equally be right. It should also be pointed out that when the Lord spoke these words, ceremonial law had not yet been abrogated; so that in using the words “offering thy gifts at the altar” He gave His hearers some local background.

v.25 The “adversary” is the plaintiff. The word itself implies that there is something against you. “In the way” means that there is still opportunity for you to be reconciled before you appear before the judge.
Three reasons why you should be reconciled with your adversary quickly are:

(1) Perhaps he may die and you will never have the chance to be reconciled with him.
(2) Perhaps you may die and so you cannot be reconciled to him.
(3) Perhaps the Lord may come back, and likewise you will have no opportunity to be reconciled with your adversary.
If you have done anything wrong against someone and have not made it right, his sigh or cry will prevent your prayer from reaching God. The voice of Abel made Cain restless.

“The judge” points to the Lord; “the officer” points to the angel; “prison” is where freedom is deprived you and where darkness prevails.
Those who are “cast into prison” shall not live gloriously as does that group of people who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. However, this is not a being permanently cast into prison. It merely indicates the possibility of Christians being judged.

v.26 Since sooner or later the debt must be repaid, why not pay it today? “Come out” —This will happen in the age to come, which is the millennial age. This is called forgiveness in the age to come, which is the millennial age. This is called forgiveness in the age to come.

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The earthly controlled RCC works of indulgence promises to reduce time in purgatory is not of God, nor is there a purgatory as described by the RCC. Such promises by a man made organization with baptism, paying penance money, confirmation rites, High and Low Mass, Eucharest, extreme unction, matrimony and holy orders sacraments is a mass control mechanism.

Catholics do not make penance by paying money. Baptism, confirmation, Mass, the Eucharist, marriage, et cetera are all biblical aspects.


This indulgence after absolution formula of Absolution - Indulgence = time to spend in Purgatory is not accurate under the auspices of a man made organization determining and declaring such things (great harlot of Religous Rome, Rev. 17, 14.8).

Could you expand on this a little, I'm not sure where you are going here?


Because of this underlying fault, there may in fact be no remission of sins, and thus the loss of rewards will be exacerbated. The church operates according to Biblical locality, not corporation-style structures such as the RCC with heirarchy that exceeds the church in independent localities.

We know from the bible that the early Church does not work by locality, but with hierarchy. The apostles established five Sees, which instructed the world. The epistles, instruction from the apostles to other churches, shows that the Church worked by a hierarchy.

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Catholics do not make penance by paying money. Baptism, confirmation, Mass, the Eucharist, marriage, et cetera are all biblical aspects.
Whether penance in the past by money or today through intermediary priesthood, both are wrong. Eucharist is wrong since the wafer or bread does not become Jesus but it is a symbol. Dividing falsely by high and low mass is wrong, as are the others mentioned. The church does not have a right to control inordinately.


Could you expand on this a little, I'm not sure where you are going here?
Absolution - Indulgences = time to spend in purgatory, is false because man does not dictate payment to the RCC for reduced time in a purgatory (as Luther exposed), since there is no purgatory, and because indulgences, a money grabber, is not God's will. Nor is intermediary priesthood which is judaized Christianity; nor is the pastoral system for that matter.

What I have said is the truth! The math is false because of the false assumptions about a purgatory and the false teaching of control through income of indulgences or intermediary priesthood.

These are reasonable statements.


We know from the bible that the early Church does not work by locality, but with hierarchy. The apostles established five Sees, which instructed the world. The epistles, instruction from the apostles to other churches, shows that the Church worked by a hierarchy.
We know the NT shows the church by locality and the church through the church periods lost this first love. The 5 Sees were to be copied throughout the world, not to be centers of control in a heirarchy. Throughout the world God's will was for there to be regional apostles operating from regional centers appointing elders for localities in their regions. In the epistles, instruction from the apostles to other churches, shows that the Church worked not by heirarchy.

God does this because he knows man's flesh, even the sin nature of men in the church, to prevent power and control by maintaining independent Biblical localities and non-profitable regional apostles who sacrifice for the faith in appointing elders so that none can hold anything against them. Popery is out of the question; even product sales are not the work of apostles.

What I have just told you is the truth.

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Whether penance in the past by money or today through intermediary priesthood, both are wrong. Eucharist is wrong since the wafer or bread does not become Jesus but it is a symbol.
It does indeed become the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ, just as John 6 shows. The apostles also told us such.


Dividing falsely by high and low mass is wrong, as are the others mentioned.
What do you mean dividing falsely by high and low Mass? The Mass is the Mass.


The church does not have a right to control inordinately.
Come again?


Absolution - Indulgences = time to spend in purgatory, is false because man does not dictate payment to the RCC for reduced time in a purgatory (as Luther exposed), since there is no purgatory, and because indulgences, a money grabber, is not God's will.
Indulgences is not a money grabber. One can not buy indulgences, such a notion is contradictary to the teachings of the Catholic Church, now and in the past.


Nor is intermediary priesthood which is judaized Christianity; nor is the pastoral system for that matter.
and that, is your opinion. I'll go with the bible and the Church.



We know the NT shows the church by locality and the church through the church periods lost this first love. The 5 Sees were to be copied throughout the world, not to be centers of control in a heirarchy.
The Five Sees were established by Apostles and governed 'localities', so this is obviously not possible.
If the Sees were supposed to be copied, then God would have had it done. It was not.


Throughout the world God's will was for there to be regional apostles operating from regional centers appointing elders for localities in their regions. In the epistles, instruction from the apostles to other churches, shows that the Church worked not by heirarchy.

And according to the bible, apostles were appointed from other apostles, except for the first twelve and Paul (who was accepted by apostles. The Catholic Church has apostolic succession, men appointed from the men appointed all the way back to Christ. I'll trust the apostles, not the person whose views contradict what I find in the bible on what the apostles were supposed to do. The epistles were from the apostles to other regions, that's a hierarchy. As is Apostle, Bishop, Deacon and layman- this hierarchy is also found in the bible. The seven Catholic letters were instruction from the apostles to all the regions- hardly independent.


God does this because he knows man's flesh, even the sin nature of men in the church, to prevent power and control by maintaining independent Biblical localities
'biblical localities'? The NT wasn't even canonized until the 4th Century. The Gospels weren't even written until after the apostles died. The problem with 'biblical localities' is that they can easily fall into heretical beliefs. Thus, Christ instituted a Church to give direction and authority, to prevent locations from falling into heresy. This is why we were given apostles, bishops and deacons- to lead the Church.

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It does indeed become the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ, just as John 6 shows. The apostles also told us such.
Then the RCC should drop this false teaching of saying the Eucharist is the actual body of Christ.


What do you mean dividing falsely by high and low Mass? The Mass is the Mass.
There are two masses. You did not know about this. Look it up.


Come again?
As I said, it is true, the church does not have a right to control by inordinate means.


Indulgences is not a money grabber. One can not buy indulgences, such a notion is contradictary to the teachings of the Catholic Church, now and in the past.
The reason why Luther put his paper on the door of the church was to protest this very act. Why shut your mind down, selectively blocking out happenings in the RCC? I recommend you go see th new release, "Luther". Whether this practice continues today as it once did, it is wrong, as are intermediary priesthood.


and that, is your opinion. I'll go with the bible and the Church.
You do not go with the Bible and the Church. The Levitical priesthood is no longer. Jesus came to fill up the law. Besides, the intermediary priesthood of the Levites was for the nation of Israel only, not to judaize the church. This is just your opinion living like a pharisee with inordinate rules. The RCC has been deceiving for a very long time.



The Five Sees were established by Apostles and governed 'localities', so this is obviously not possible.
If the Sees were supposed to be copied, then God would have had it done. It was not.

The 5 sees are regional centers to be copied all over the world for regions of churches. This is very much possible and will occur all over the world before the return of Christ where the apostles operate from regional centers (Sees) and apoint elders to take care of Biblical localities within those regions. This is the Work of The Ministry of the apostles and this forum in wating for 12 informal apostles to come together in agreement to ask of apostles questions so the church may be confident in their apostolship. Though we are not in the apostolic age, there shall be informal apostles who do the same work as the apostles in the fist century, when that first love was lost of the Ephesus church period.



And according to the bible, apostles were appointed from other apostles, except for the first twelve and Paul (who was accepted by apostles. The Catholic Church has apostolic succession, men appointed from the men appointed all the way back to Christ. I'll trust the apostles, not the person whose views contradict what I find in the bible on what the apostles were supposed to do. The epistles were from the apostles to other regions, that's a hierarchy. As is Apostle, Bishop, Deacon and layman- this hierarchy is also found in the bible. The seven Catholic letters were instruction from the apostles to all the regions- hardly independent.

In the Bible the apostles did not appoint apostles. Apostles have direct commission from God. You may be confusing some apostles were also elders of a Biblical locality, though not always the case. Similarly at this forum you see we are waiting on the 12 who will create a questionnaire in agreement for other apostles to follow in agreement, similar to the apostles in the first century following on the footsteps of the 12 apostles.

You do not trust the apostles, for there is no popery in the church. The apostles do not agree with you, as there is no apostolic succession. There is just apostles with direct commission from God. In the world there is successions of presidents of corporations or hiring one's own children to run the company, but in the Bible apostles are not appointed. They have direct commission from God.

In the epistles the apostles worked in other regions creating more regional centers. This is not a heirarchy. There is still just the regional center which the apostles of that region go to and from appointing elders in Biblical localities. That is all.

Deacons are helpers of elders and elders are bishops. Apostles are not deaconds nor are they elders, though sometimes an apostle can be an elder, having a dual role as both apostle and elder.

The 7 letters to the 7 churches in Rev. 2 & 3 were to 7 independent Biblical localities, not to regions. All 7 churches were in the region of Asia Minor. These letters are for the universal church, and they point to the 7 church periods of the past 20 centuries. We are in the Loadicean church period now of differing opinions, neither hot nor cold, just luke warm.

http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/7churches.htm


'biblical localities'? The NT wasn't even canonized until the 4th Century. The Gospels weren't even written until after the apostles died. The problem with 'biblical localities' is that they can easily fall into heretical beliefs. Thus, Christ instituted a Church to give direction and authority, to prevent locations from falling into heresy. This is why we were given apostles, bishops and deacons- to lead the Church.
The NT was in the heart of believers despite canonizing at some later date. The NT is the result of the heart of believers in the Work in the first century. The gospels were written by apostles when they were alive: Matthew, John and those close to Luke and Peter.

There is no problem with Biblical localities since this is exactly God's will and the best way to handle church affairs to prevent heretical beliefs. By containing heretical beliefs to a locality and not allowing it to spread in denominations beyond localities, regions and countries, the problem is contained in the best way possible. Praise the Lord!

Christ never instituted the RCC to deceive as it does with its intermediary priesthood and goddess idolatry, mistreatment of women apostles and doing nothing to its thousands of pedophiles. It is because of this false heirarchy that is not disclosed in the Scriptures that these problems come about. Thus, we were given the proper authority of the apostles appointing elders to take care of Biblica localities as independent units and miniatures of the new city in the new earth.

Since you are just repeating yourself, can't repent, and have nothing to offer in your unregeneration, you are banned.