Results 1 to 10 of 17

Thread: The Rapture in 2036, The Second Coming in 2043

Threaded View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #12
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    17
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Faithful View Post
    As in Noah's days is not in Noah's sons' days, but it has to do with how everyone was drinking and marrying oblivious to the fact a great flood was coming that Noah warned about.
    It’s true that “it has to do with how everyone was drinking and marrying oblivious to the fact a great flood was coming that Noah warned about”, because so it’s mentioned in the verses from The Scripture where God speaks about that. But, It has to do not only with that. We must watch more in dept. For, in some other parts of the Bible, nephilims are mentioned and God punished world with flood not only because of wicked people, but because of nephilims too. And, though God didn’t say directly: “As nephilims were in day of Noah so it will be in those days”, yet indirectly it’s God’s message and nephilims will really exist in wide extent in “those days”. The same case is with lifetime of generation of “those days”.

    Quote Originally Posted by Faithful View Post
    “It is about how long a person should live if he stays spiritual and healthy--70 to 80 years. God never said a person should live nearly 100 years before His return though there are always exceptions of course.
    Many people in 21st century reach and will reach 100 and more years. <text removed>
    You're still missing the point. It is an average that most people should live 70 to 80 years before the millennial kingdom; and in the millennial kingdom people should live to be 100. This did not occur in Noah's day, but in Noah's day a person should live to at least 75 years to at least meet this standard God has set.”
    I think that I said enough about generation which is by Bible 40, 70-80, 96, 100 years, etc. and I think it has not sense to repeat. You don’t have proof that it must be 70-80 years. I think that I shew that it’s more logical to be 96 years because of that I wrote in precedent posts. Who has eye to see, that will see.

    Quote Originally Posted by Faithful View Post
    Jesus will only allow 7 years for the Tribulation commensurate with Daniel's final seven for Israel. He cuts it short. He won't allow it to extend 14 years or 21 years.
    I agree that “He won't allow it to extend 14 years or 21 years”. I nowhere said He will. But, He also nowhere said that it will last 14 or 21 (or some other value different from 7) years, and on some other place that it will be shortened from 14 or 21 to 7 years. He only spoke about 7 years. So when He speaks about shortening time He speaks about faster passage of that 7-years time than time before that one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Faithful View Post
    Adam never made any pyramids. The stones in Jerusalem are not pyramids. How silly. That ancient peoples could build pyramids that point to certain stars is no miracle. It is really easy to do. The signs in the heavens are that of Joel 2.31, Acts 2.20, Rev. 6.12 which occur before the Tribulation starts; that is, the Nov. 3, 2013 long H3 Solar eclipse and the 2014/15 feast Tetrad.
    I didn’t say that the stones in Jerusalem are not pyramids. So, I didn’t say anything silly as you say. But, your conclusion is not correct. You don’t watch wide, so you made wrong conclusion. You limited message of Jesus only to stones in Jerusalem. When Jesus spoke about them, His message wasn't only about them but about each stone which speaks about God. Whole archaeology speaks about God, about that the Bible is true and nowadays when many people shut, betray or twist truth, stones really cry out. Your limitation is similar as you said that message from the Gospel regards only to apostles and all other whom Jesus was speaking to in that time, because He was speaking to them. But, all true Christians know that what Jesus spoke to them, regards to all generations till end of the age and so to our generation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Faithful View Post
    That ancient peoples could build pyramids that point to certain stars is no miracle. It is really easy to do.
    Building pyramids in Giza with such measures, proportions and meanings could have been done only by God’s wisdom. So it is miracle, big miracle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Faithful View Post
    The signs in the heavens are that of Joel 2.31, Acts 2.2, Rev. 6.12 which occur before the Tribulation starts; that is, the Nov. 3, 2013 long H3 Solar eclipse and the 2014/15 feast Tetrad.
    The sixth seal is at the same time the seventh trumpet and seventh bowl of God’s wrath, so it is at the end of Tribulation, not before Tribulation. And Acts 2.2 is not connected with Joel 2.31 and Rev. 6.12. Act 2:2 is about outpouring of The Holy Spirit on Pentecost, almost 2000 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Faithful View Post
    Ezra 2 is not one of the 66 books of God's word so it is one of those "other books" not of God's word. That's where Roman Catholics falter as they add and take away from God's word (Rev. 22.18,19).
    Yes, Ezra 2 is not one of the 66 books of God’s word, but it is not true that therefore it is "one of those 'other books' not of God's word". Because, beside 66 canonical Bible books, there are some apocryphal Bible books. For example, The Book of Jasher, which is mentioned in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18 or The Book of Enoch mentioned in Jude 1:14, etc. 2 Esdras was in the Septuagint version of Jesus' day and was in even the first edition of the King James. It was taken out of canon in the 1885. because of the pressure from the Puritans.

    Quote Originally Posted by Faithful View Post
    The Lord could have returned earlier from when Israel became a nation, but chose not to because Israel needed more time to develop as a nation. He delayed so that Rev. 6.12 could be fulfilled 2010-15 before the Tribulation starts.
    The Lord will neither delay nor hurry. He will come as He planned before He created the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Faithful View Post
    I believe Ez. 38 & 39 is partly the Tribulation and partly the Gog and Magog situation at the end of the millennial reign, similar to how Christ's first coming and second coming fulfill His purpose but separated by nearly 2000 years.
    Yes, and Ez. 38 & 39 could even happen just prior to tribulation. Or maybe in some other time. I’m not sure when exactly, time will show.

    Quote Originally Posted by Faithful View Post
    My only trouble is it is hard for me to believe the mark of the beast will be widely distributed in time, but perhaps it doesn't need to be and Jesus returns to not allow it to be that pervasive, just as He returns because natural gas fracturing, other pollution and and radiation are doing too much damage to the earth.
    As Revelation says, all people will be mandatory to receive the mark of the beast. Those who reject will be killed and prosecuted.


    Quote Originally Posted by Faithful View Post
    Based on everything you have shown me for your alternate dates, I find no reason for you to hold onto them because I have given the reasons why they are not viable. You must challenge the data I provide that denounces your dates, otherwise you cling to something that has evidence against it. Nothing really fits for your alternate dates. It's too ad hoc, lacks plausibility, explanatory scope and power.
    If you are honest, you will see that it’s about you. It’s not important who is right, but that all of us are in line with God’s word. If I weren’t I would change my mind (as I did whenever I saw mistakes or sins in my life), but regarding to this discussion I see you are not right and I wish you to accept truth. Truth make us free if we accept it. It’s God’s message.
    I think that I said enough and that farther discussion would not have sense, because you don't (not forever, I hope) accept true arguments.
    He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the churches. He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.” (Rev 2:11)

    All the best from The Lord Jesus,
    Aleksandar
    Last edited by Churchwork; 06-29-2012 at 07:36 AM. Reason: Removed false quote "(as in the Noah's days)." Please don't quote your words in quotes of another person as if they said that

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 06-23-2015, 06:08 PM
  2. Rapture in the Air Now - Partial Rapture
    By Parture in forum Partial Rapture
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 06-19-2014, 11:48 PM
  3. Coming Out of Tribulation the Great
    By Parture in forum Partial Rapture
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 11-18-2010, 04:49 AM
  4. "The Coming Prince"
    By Finestwheat in forum The Tribulation
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 09-17-2008, 05:55 PM
  5. 2029-2036
    By Churchwork in forum Science
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-30-2006, 11:29 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •