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    ***As was said many times, if there was a natural process of infinite regress, you would have happened already, having had an eternity to do so. So nature needs a cause outside of itself that is outside of time and space, being uncreated and this is whom we call the uncreated Creator or God. Why do you avoid this fact? Why shut your mind down?***

    Ill respond only to this seeing as everything else is basically you preaching.

    Care to explain this abit more in detail for me? Infinity is a man made concept, your making a claim based on nothing. Even if i grant you that existence must me infinite, It only opens door to endless possibility. ME happing already? If infinity was a reality i should of happened an infinite amount of times. A Natural cause is that which yields change automatically with out intelligent intervention. It happening naturally means an intelligent being or a god isnt needed.

    Time and space are properties on our one universe. With the idea of infinity we should have and infinity number of universes with an infinite number propertie compositions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamanewb View Post
    Ill respond only to this seeing as everything else is basically you preaching.
    This is a lousy excuse to avoid the points made here. It's a way for you to shut your mind down and not deal with reality. One fact leads to the next and as each fact does, you are led inextricably to the fact that you are going to Hell. You call this preaching. I call this reality, fully evidenced-based. If you can't overturn any of the evidence, then you convict yourself. You are guilty as charged. Your choice is to be eternally separated in Hell from God. C. S. Lewis says you lock yourself in Hell from the inside. We lock people in jail for life so why think God would not have an eternal jail for you as you wish to be eternally separated from your Creator? I hope you are getting a sense why this sin is the greatest sin a person could ever commit. Nothing is more evil than this.

    Care to explain this abit more in detail for me? Infinity is a man made concept, your making a claim based on nothing. Even if i grant you that existence must me infinite, It only opens door to endless possibility. ME happing already? If infinity was a reality i should of happened an infinite amount of times. A Natural cause is that which yields change automatically with out intelligent intervention. It happening naturally means an intelligent being or a god isnt needed.
    You're the one who proposes an infinity-an infinite regress of cause and effects-so you are the one who made it up and yet admit it is a "man made concept." So why the doubletalk? I agree. It's a lie. So since infinite regress is impossible and something can't come from nothing then nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated. This is whom we call God. One of the characteristics of God is being uncreated.

    Existence is not infinite in nature in the past. Why would you grant me this when I don't believe that? That makes no sense at all. How can you be so daft? In your infinite regress theory you said there would be infinite possibilities. Even so if there was, you would have happened already having had an eternity to do so. The you that you are now would have happened already whether you happened an infinite number of times or not. The you that you are now would have happened already. You're not thinking straight. A natural cause requires an ultimate supernatural cause because infinite regress is impossible. The first cause, thus, must be an Intelligent Designer. An Intelligent Designer is needed. Moreover, non-life can't produce life. It needs an Intelligent Designer. That's what the scientific evidence shows us.

    Time and space are properties on our one universe. With the idea of infinity we should have and infinity number of universes with an infinite number propertie compositions.
    Even so, you should have happened already, having had an eternity to do so. It's very simple, you just don't think. This is the nature of being an atheist. A hostile heart to God doesn't think. Just like in that Casey Anthony murder trial, the prosecutor said Casey avoids, deflects, runs and doesn't deal with these problems and conflicts in the data. That's a difficult case, but the lawyer who won 245 cases in a row in the Guinness Book of Records said the greatest and best proven case he has ever seen is the proof for the resurrection of Jesus. And Simon Greenleaf, the most famous lawyer of the 19th century who produced more jurisprudence than all the lawyers in Europe combined said,

    "Every document apparently ancient coming from the proper repository or custody and bearing on its face no evident marks of forgery, the law presumes to be genuine and devolves on the opposing party the burden of proving it to be otherwise."
    You've been given every opportunity to make your case and you come up empty for your faith that is therefore, blind faith. You have blind faith in atheism. Your hostility to God breeds this blind faith and shutting your mind down to the evidence right here before you.

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