Quote Originally Posted by stray bullet
It does indeed become the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ, just as John 6 shows. The apostles also told us such.
Then the RCC should drop this false teaching of saying the Eucharist is the actual body of Christ.

What do you mean dividing falsely by high and low Mass? The Mass is the Mass.
There are two masses. You did not know about this. Look it up.

Come again?
As I said, it is true, the church does not have a right to control by inordinate means.

Indulgences is not a money grabber. One can not buy indulgences, such a notion is contradictary to the teachings of the Catholic Church, now and in the past.
The reason why Luther put his paper on the door of the church was to protest this very act. Why shut your mind down, selectively blocking out happenings in the RCC? I recommend you go see th new release, "Luther". Whether this practice continues today as it once did, it is wrong, as are intermediary priesthood.

and that, is your opinion. I'll go with the bible and the Church.
You do not go with the Bible and the Church. The Levitical priesthood is no longer. Jesus came to fill up the law. Besides, the intermediary priesthood of the Levites was for the nation of Israel only, not to judaize the church. This is just your opinion living like a pharisee with inordinate rules. The RCC has been deceiving for a very long time.

The Five Sees were established by Apostles and governed 'localities', so this is obviously not possible.
If the Sees were supposed to be copied, then God would have had it done. It was not.
The 5 sees are regional centers to be copied all over the world for regions of churches. This is very much possible and will occur all over the world before the return of Christ where the apostles operate from regional centers (Sees) and apoint elders to take care of Biblical localities within those regions. This is the Work of The Ministry of the apostles and this forum in wating for 12 informal apostles to come together in agreement to ask of apostles questions so the church may be confident in their apostolship. Though we are not in the apostolic age, there shall be informal apostles who do the same work as the apostles in the fist century, when that first love was lost of the Ephesus church period.

And according to the bible, apostles were appointed from other apostles, except for the first twelve and Paul (who was accepted by apostles. The Catholic Church has apostolic succession, men appointed from the men appointed all the way back to Christ. I'll trust the apostles, not the person whose views contradict what I find in the bible on what the apostles were supposed to do. The epistles were from the apostles to other regions, that's a hierarchy. As is Apostle, Bishop, Deacon and layman- this hierarchy is also found in the bible. The seven Catholic letters were instruction from the apostles to all the regions- hardly independent.
In the Bible the apostles did not appoint apostles. Apostles have direct commission from God. You may be confusing some apostles were also elders of a Biblical locality, though not always the case. Similarly at this forum you see we are waiting on the 12 who will create a questionnaire in agreement for other apostles to follow in agreement, similar to the apostles in the first century following on the footsteps of the 12 apostles.

You do not trust the apostles, for there is no popery in the church. The apostles do not agree with you, as there is no apostolic succession. There is just apostles with direct commission from God. In the world there is successions of presidents of corporations or hiring one's own children to run the company, but in the Bible apostles are not appointed. They have direct commission from God.

In the epistles the apostles worked in other regions creating more regional centers. This is not a heirarchy. There is still just the regional center which the apostles of that region go to and from appointing elders in Biblical localities. That is all.

Deacons are helpers of elders and elders are bishops. Apostles are not deaconds nor are they elders, though sometimes an apostle can be an elder, having a dual role as both apostle and elder.

The 7 letters to the 7 churches in Rev. 2 & 3 were to 7 independent Biblical localities, not to regions. All 7 churches were in the region of Asia Minor. These letters are for the universal church, and they point to the 7 church periods of the past 20 centuries. We are in the Loadicean church period now of differing opinions, neither hot nor cold, just luke warm.

http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/7churches.htm

'biblical localities'? The NT wasn't even canonized until the 4th Century. The Gospels weren't even written until after the apostles died. The problem with 'biblical localities' is that they can easily fall into heretical beliefs. Thus, Christ instituted a Church to give direction and authority, to prevent locations from falling into heresy. This is why we were given apostles, bishops and deacons- to lead the Church.
The NT was in the heart of believers despite canonizing at some later date. The NT is the result of the heart of believers in the Work in the first century. The gospels were written by apostles when they were alive: Matthew, John and those close to Luke and Peter.

There is no problem with Biblical localities since this is exactly God's will and the best way to handle church affairs to prevent heretical beliefs. By containing heretical beliefs to a locality and not allowing it to spread in denominations beyond localities, regions and countries, the problem is contained in the best way possible. Praise the Lord!

Christ never instituted the RCC to deceive as it does with its intermediary priesthood and goddess idolatry, mistreatment of women apostles and doing nothing to its thousands of pedophiles. It is because of this false heirarchy that is not disclosed in the Scriptures that these problems come about. Thus, we were given the proper authority of the apostles appointing elders to take care of Biblica localities as independent units and miniatures of the new city in the new earth.

Since you are just repeating yourself, can't repent, and have nothing to offer in your unregeneration, you are banned.