7 Year Preparatory Period of Plenty from 2016 to 2023

[Faithful]

Analysis: May I say in all sincerity though I am the first person on the planet to discover this, I myself am unable to disprove it so I am being entirely honest with myself. The only thing one could possibly say is that "very near" (Matt. 24.33) can be deemed even longer than a lifetime, but when I read the Bible I just don't see it. Very near especially after a significant event identified as Israel a nation again after 2500 years should not be construed as to mean 100 or 200 or 300 years later. That is out of the context of the passage of what "very near" means.

If you question Matt. 24.32 about Israel a nation again as the meaning of the passage, recall how Jesus just before cursed the fig tree for not showing its leaves when He was accusing Israel having no life in them. There also several passages in the Old Testament treating Israel as the fig tree and the trees as the nations; Israel is to the land as the sea is the nations. And don't forget how Ezekiel prophesied on his side to the month of May, 1948 when Israel would become a nation again.

And last but not least, the 120th Jubilee is 2015. It is also a Sabbath year of every seven years.

To my conscience this is just too overwhelming to overlook and as certain a fact as any.

[James]

Matt. 24.32-33 says after Israel becomes a nation again, the return of Jesus is "very near". Previously Jesus was denouncing Israel as the fig tree for not having any life by showing it does not have leaves. And in the OT Israel often is represented by the fig tree. To me "very near" would be within a lifetime at the very latest. Ps. 90.10 says a lifetime is within 70-80 years. Split the difference since God is gracious so let's say 75 years at the most. 75 plus 1948 when Israel became a nation takes us to the return of Jesus in Person by 2023 at the latest.

Each of Daniel's sixty-nine sevens (Dan. 9.24-27) are 6 x 360 = 2,520 days each. And 2,520 is the smallest number divisible by all numbers from 2 to 10. So the seventieth (final) seven is 2,520 days. Therefore, the Tribulation can't start any later than 2016. What is the earliest it can start? This takes a little more thinking.

Joel 2.31, Acts 2.20 and Rev. 6.12 tell us before the terrible day of the Lord (Tribulation) three events must occur in precise order: a great earthquake, a black sackcloth total solar eclipse, and a red blood moon total lunar eclipse.

The earthquake in Haiti in 2010 killed the 2nd greatest number of people of any quake in history and the most on a per capita basis 1 in 27 souls. The earthquake in Japan 2011 was the 4th or 5th greatest in magnitude in human history and it was the greatest in terms of financial loss. This is the first time such devastating quakes have occurred back to back, year over year, so this is roughly a 1 in 2010 probability of happening in 2010-11.

What follows is the solar eclipse. There are 4 kinds of solar eclipses and the rarest is the Hybrid occurring about 5% of the time. There are 3 kinds of Hybrids and the rarest is the H3 occurring about 5% of the time and turns into a total eclipse which gives it that black sackcloth effect. Amazingly, Nov. 3, 2013 is the long H3 solar eclipse - 4th since Christ. Roughly that is a probability of 1 in 700 since there were 3 instances before 2013 since Christ.

Next is the red blood moon total lunar eclipse. The rarest kind of lunar eclipse is the Lunar Tetrad when there are 4 red blood in a row over 2 years. Several centuries can go by without a single one and other centuries there can be as many as 5 or even 7. But they are really rare when you observe just those Tetrads that land on passover, tabernacles and again on passover and tabernacles. Israel has 7 feasts. The first is passover and the seventh is tabernacles. The 6th Total Lunar Tetrad was 1949/50. Israel became a nation again May 14, 1948 and signed the Armistice treaties in 1949. The 7th Tetrad was 1967/68. Israel took over Jerusalem June 7, 1967. The probability is approximately 1 in 100,000 these two feast Tetrads would land on these two key dates in the 20th century for Israel. Technically since there has never been two feast Tetrads within 18 years apart this is a first. But from the perspective of there being one century since Christ which had 2 Tetrads that is about a 1 in 20 chance there would be two in the 20th century. The odds of one landing on one of those key dates is 2/100. And the odds of the other landing on the other key date comes to 1/99. All told that is about a 1 in 100,000 chance.

Israel is going to rebuild the 3rd Temple because it is completed during the Tribulation (2 Thess. 2.4, Rev. 11.2) and this will be done during the 8th Tetrad 2014/15. The next Tetrad is not till 2582/83 and it has no rare solar eclipse next to it. The next long H3 solar eclipse is not till 2172. So the events before us are spectacular. Whatever combination you use of earthquake with the H3 or earthquake with the Tetrad or H3 with the Tetrad this is the first time they have occurred together in history. Technically, this is the first time in history two earthquakes occurred together of this magnitude. Surely, therefore, this satisfies Rev. 6.12 shortly before the Tribulation begins.

We already determined the Tribulation can't start after 2016, but now we see it can't start before 2015, because these 3 events which precede the Tribulation occur from 2010 to 2015 in Rev. 6.12, before the first rapture "before the throne" (7.9) in 3rd heaven before the 1st trumpet of the Tribulation (8.7) begins that starts the 2,520 days of the Tribulation.

Therefore, we need to find a 2,520 day period that fits. The first 4 feasts of Israel were referring to His first coming. The last 3 feasts deal with His second coming. Feast of Trumpets always represents rapture so this is where we should start as it coincides perfectly with Rev. 7.9. Incidentally this rapture before the Tribulation is not for the whole Church just those in the Church who keep the word of His patience (3.10), are watchful (Matt. 24.40-42) and prayerful (Luke 21.36) to escape the hour of trial that is to come upon the whole world. Obviously, not all Christians fulfill this condition. Consider this accountability for Christians. If you are a Christian though you can't lose eternal life, you certainly can lose the reward of being first rapture as well as returning to reign during the 1000 years (Rev. 2.26, 20.4-6) as one of the 5 wise virgins (Matt. 25.1-13).

The 2,520th day from Feast of Trumpets in 2016 does not take us to any special day in 2023. So our only other option is 2015 to 2022. At first glance it doesn't appear the 2,520th day from Feast of Trumpets Sept. 14, 2015 is anything special other than being Sunday on Aug. 7, 2022. But with a little more digging one realizes whenever Tisha B'Av, Av 9, is on a Saturday it is held the day after instead. Hence, Tisha B'Av is the 2,520th day in 2022. Tisha B'Av is important because it is when the Jews commemorate the destruction of the 1st and 2nd Temples. As it turns out every 7 out of 19 years Israel adds an extra month which brings the 2,520th day to Tisha B'Av. Fascinating! The probably Jesus returns on Sunday is 1 in 7; the probability Tisha B'Av is held over from a Saturday is 1 in 7; and the 2,520 day period fits 7 out of every 19 years.

Last but not least, the exact order of these 3 events is a permutation that comes to 1 in 6. Multiplying all these variables together comes to a miraculous improbability of 1 in 112 trillion that's 1 in 112,000,000,000,000. For the signs Jesus said to look for before His parousia that lasts seven years of His second coming, surely these are amazing enough to know when He returns.

To seal it all off, there is a double fulfillment of the declaration to rebuild the Temple in Daniel's prophecy which would take seven sets of seven or 17,640 days (Dan. 9.25) in troublous times. There just so happens to be exactly 17,640 days from June 7, 1967 when Israel took over Jerusalem to Sept. 23, 2015 Day of Atonement. 2015 is the 120th Jubilee as well as the Sabbath year every seven years, thus technically the start of the millennial kingdom.

[everstill]

Why Does Jesus Return Tisha B'Av August 7, 2022?

Jesus said to His disciples many centuries ago you can't know when He returns because they did not have enough information at that time. Nor could you know when Jesus returns if you lived anytime prior to 1948. Israel became a nation again May 14, 1948 (Matt. 24.32) so now "you can know his return is very near, right at the door" (v.33) even the day. We need a specific marker related to Israel showing its leaves again.

A Lunar Tetrad is when there are four red blood moon total eclipses in a row over two years. And a Total Lunar Tetrad is when those four red blood moons fall on passover, tabernacles and again on passover and tabernacles. Passover is the first of Israel's seven feasts and Tabernacles is the last one. The 6th Total Lunar Tetrad since Christ was 1949/50. The Armistice treaties were signed in 1949. The 7th TLT was 1967/68 when Israel entered Jerusaelem on June 7, 1967. This was the first time ever in recorded history two TLT's were within 18 years apart so let there be no doubt this is the key marker God wants us to pay attention to! The next TLT is 2014/15 and it won't happen again till 2582/83. The time is now!

"Very near" (Matt. 24.33) would not be more than a lifetime so we know Jesus steps down no later than 75 years (Ps. 90.10) from 1948. No later than 2023! Thus, the seven-year Tribulation could not start any later than 2016.

"And I saw when he opened the sixth seal, and there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the whole moon became as blood" (Rev. 6.12). The sixth Seal occurs right before the Tribulation starts because it is the 7th Seal that opens the 7 Trumpets of the Tribulation.

You'll be able to know the start of the Tribulation because of the first rapture "before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands" (7.9). This rapture is conditional for believers who keep the word of His patience. Not all Christians "keep the word of my patience" (3.10) for Jesus to "keep thee from the hour of trial, that hour which is to come upon the whole world, to try them that dwell upon the earth" (v.10). Also see Matt. 24.40-42 and Luke 21.36.

In 2010 there was a great earthquake in Haiti that is recorded as having the 2nd greatest number of deaths of all earthquakes human history, and the most deaths per capita at 1 in 27. In 2011 Japan experienced an earthquake that is recorded as being the 4th or 5th greatest earthquake in magnitude in all of human history. And it was the greatest financial loss. Never before in human history was there ever two earthquakes of such proportions that occurred back to back, year over year.

There are 4 kinds of lunar eclipses. The rarest kind is the Hybrid which occurs about 5% of the time. And there are 3 kinds of Hybrids, the rarest is the H3 which occurs about 5% of the time. It finishes off being a total eclipse to produce that black sackcloth effect. On Nov. 3, 2013 is a long H3 solar eclipse. It will be the 4th one since Christ. A long eclipse is deemed by NASA to be greater than 1 minute and 30 seconds. The next long H3 is not till 2172.

The TLT in 2014/15 completes the geological and cosmic events before the start of the Tribulation. Therefore, the Tribulation can't start any sooner than 2015 because of these 3 events in proper order in Rev. 6.12 that precede the Tribulation.

All of Daniel's sixty-nine sevens were 2,520 days each (Dan. 9.24-27). 2,520 is the smallest number divisible by all numbers from 2 to 10. From the declaration to rebuild the Temple Nisan 1, 444 BC would take 69 sets of seven or 173,880 days after which Jesus would be cut off. The 173,880th day is March 28, 33 AD (Gregorian) on a Monday Nisan 10, the 1st day of the 4 day inspection of the lamb. Jesus was captured on Thursday, March 31 and died on on Passover Nisan 14, April 1, 33 AD. There was a lunar eclipse on April 1, 33 AD (Gregorian).

Therefore, the 70th seven is also 2,520 days. Since the last 3 feasts of the 7 feasts of Israel pertain to His second coming and the Feast of Trumpets, the first of those 3 feasts, deals with rapture and the first rapture is before the Tribulation it would seem reasonable to count down from Feast of Trumpets. There is no particular holiday 2,520 days from Feast of Trumpets in 2016.

In 2015, Feast of Trumpets is Sept. 14, 2015. The 2,520th day is Av 10, Aug. 7, 2022 a Sunday. Tisha B'Av, Av 9 lands on Saturday, Aug. 6, 2022 but when it is lands on a Saturday it is commemorated the day after instead which works out to be the 2,520th day we are looking for. Tisha B'Av is when Israel commemorates the destruction of the 1st and 2nd Temples. Jesus shall return to reign in the 3rd Temple that will be completed during the Tribulation (2 Thess. 2.4, Rev. 11.2) with 2300 days left to the end of the Tribulation till it is cleansed (Dan. 8.14). There are 2300 days from April 21, 2016, the 4th day inspection of the lamb, to Aug. 7, 2022. April 22, 2016 is Nisan 14, Passover.

To put this all into perspective we are seeing the unprecedented combination of the great earthquake, unique solar eclipse and unique lunar eclipse in just that order. We know when the first rapture according to readiness is, when the 2,520 days of the Tribulation take place and when Jesus steps down on the mount of olives with His overcomers (Jude, 14,15; Rev. 20.4-6) who get to reign over the nations (2.26) with a rod of iron (12.5) for 1000 years.

It's difficult to accept we are literally the last generation who receive the blessing of being raptured alive, "taken" at the start of the first trumpet if we are watchful and prayerful; or, if "left" to pass through the Tribulation to be raptured, or raptured and resurrected, at the start of the last trumpet (11.15, 15.2-4; 1 Cor. 15.52; 1 Thess. 4.14-18).

But who can deny this data with such record breaking phenomena of signs we are insisted to look out for! As hard as it is for our emotions to accept we really are the last generation before the return of Jesus, if we are willingly to be logical and honest with ourselves, putting our oscillating emotions to the side for the moment, we will embrace this fact wholeheartedly and seek to make ourselves ready.

The "sign of the Son of Man" (Matt. 24.30) is Jupiter in 2022 which will be the closest to earth it has been in centuries.

[everstill]

Jesus was cursing the fig tree for having no leaves representing Israel for having no life after all He has done for them. In Matt. 24.33, Jesus says His return is "very near" after Israel becomes a nation again, branches beginning to bud (v.32), so within a lifetime of 75 years (Ps. 90.10) from 1948. No later than 2023! The 7-year Tribulation can't start any later than 2016. Jesus said the disciples could not know when He returns prior to Israel becoming a nation again.

Even then most people won't know so they are told to be watchful for Jesus will come like a thief in the night, "but ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief" (1 Thess. 5.4). "But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you" (1 Thess. 5.1).

Jesus doesn't contradict Himself when He said "you can know" (Matt. 24.33) when He returns after Israel is a nation again (v.32) then turn around and say you can't know (vv.35-36). Hence, the latter passage is referring to "earth shall pass away" after the 1000 year reign with a rod of iron, not to when Jesus returns. Rods of iron are for earth not for heaven. Jesus returns 1000 years before the end of the 1000 year reign on earth. That would be weird if Jesus returns the day the earth ends because there would be no mount of olives to step down on (Zech. 14.4). The reason why you can't know when the 1000 years starts is because we are not quite sure when it begins at the consummation of this age either at the start of the Tribulation or at the end of the Tribulation or somewhere in between.

We are also told to look for signs in the cosmos for when the Tribulation starts. In the 6th seal, Rev. 6.12 (Joel 2.31, Acts 2.20) says 3 things must occur before the Tribulation starts since the 7th seal opens up the loud 7 trumpets of the Tribulation. The first rapture according to readiness (Rev. 3.10, Luke 21.36) is "before the throne" (7.9) in 3rd heaven before the 1st trumpet (8.7) commences the Tribulation. The resurrection is at the start of the last trumpet (11.15) which is the harvest (14.14-16) to meet the Lord in the air (1 Thess. 4.14-18).

"When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood" (Rev. 6.12).

First, a great earthquake! The second greatest number of deaths occurred in Haiti 2010 and most per capita 1 in 27 people. The 4th or 5th greatest in magnitude occurred in Japan 2011 and was the greatest financial loss. Never before in history have two earthquakes of such massive proportions occurred back to back, year over year.

Second, a black sackcloth solar eclipse! There are 4 kinds of solar eclipses. The rarest is the Hybrid occurring about 5% of the time. There are 3 kinds of Hybrids, the rarest being the H3 about 5% of the time which finishes off as a total eclipse to produce that black sackcloth effect. The 4th long H3 since Christ is Nov. 3, 2013. It won't happen again till 2172.

Third, a red blood moon lunar eclipse! The rarest kind of lunar eclipse is the lunar tetrad. A tetrad is when there are 4 red blood moon total eclipses in a row over two years. And it is even rarer when it lands on passover, tabernacles, and again on passover and tabernacles. Passover is the first of Israel's seven feasts representing atonement. And Tabernacles is the last feast pointing to the future millennial kingdom when Jesus returns to tabernacle with us. The 6th Total Lunar Tetrad since Christ was 1949/50. Israel became a nation May 14, 1948 and signed the Armistice treaties in 1949. The 7th feast Tetrad was 1967/68. Israel took over Jerusalem June 7, 1967. This is the first time in history two feast Tetrads were this close 18 years apart. The 8th Tetrad is 2014/15 and won't happen again for nearly 600 years in 2582/83. There is no unique solar eclipse next to that Tetrad way off into the future. As a double fulfillment of Daniel's prophecy, it would take seven sets of seven years from the declaration to rebuild the Temple for it to be completed. This is 17,640 days or 360 days/yr x 7 sets of 7 years (Dan. 9.25). From June 7, 1967 to Sept. 23, 2015 is also 17,640 days. This day happens to be the Day of Atonement which is 10 days after the first rapture Feast of Trumpets.

Considering these undeniable facts, the Tribulation can't start before 2015. Next, we need a 2,520 day period for the Tribulation since all of Daniel's sixty-nine sevens are 2,520 days each. 2,520 is the smallest number divisible by all numbers 2 to 10 as Daniel's basic working prophetic unit. This is triply confirmed since Jesus was "cut off" (Dan. 9.26) after 69 sets of seven years or 173,880 days from the declaration to rebuild the temple Nisan 1, 444 BC (Neh. 2.1). This takes us to Nisan 10, Monday, Mar. 28, 33 AD (Gregorian), the day Jesus entered Jerusalem and the first day of the four day inspection of the lamb. The 4 day inspection was Mar. 28, 29, 30, 31. Jesus was captured on Thursday, Mar. 31 then He died on the cross Nisan 14, Passover, Friday, April 1, 33 AD what Satan calls April Fool's Day. The first 4 feasts refer to the following: atonement, set apart for three days, resurrected and Holy Spirit indwells. Since the last 3 feasts pertain to Jesus' second coming (rapture, salvation, millennium) and the first of those feasts deals with the first rapture (Rev. 7.9), the 2,520 day period must count down from Feast of Trumpets. There is no holiday on the 2,520th day in 2023 from Feast of Trumpets in 2016.

The 2,520th day from Feast of Trumpets Sept. 14, 2015 takes us to Sunday Aug. 7, 2022. Yet I could find no holiday on that day either until I realized when Tisha B'Av falls on a Saturday it is held the day after instead. So is the case in 2022. Tisha B'Av was when the 1st and 2nd Temples were destroyed. This is of great significance because Jesus returns to reign in the 3rd Temple (2 Thess. 2.4, Rev. 11.2) for 1000 years (20.2-7) over the nations with His overcomers (2.26, 20.4-6) and a rod of iron (12.5). He returns with 10,000 of His overcomers (Jude 14,15), the 5 wise virgins (Matt. 25.1-13). The 5 unwise virgins though saved and have eternal life which can never be lost (John 10.28) would not be included in the first rapture nor the return to reign during the 1000 years. They would be resurrected at last trumpet. This is accountability for Christians to "overcometh" mentioned 7 times in Rev. 2 & 3. Christians all overcome but not at the same time. There is a firstfruits (12.5, 14.1-5) and later harvest (14.14-16), advanced parties and harbingers in every sphere. Many Christians prefer to be tied down to the world like a balloon unwilling to be released so they shall lose this reward by being cast into outer darkness, outside the light of reward of reigning with Christ during the millennium.

Outer darkness is like being in the forest and seeing a beautifully lit cabin but not allowed to enter until the occupants come out to take them to the mansion. Or it is like painting a house, but if you are sloppy with the paint getting it all over yourself, you will need to remove it with some solvent like gasoline which stings before you can enter the shower.

[Churchwork]

Based on the Tetrads the Tribuation is 2,520 days from Feast of Trumpets, Sept. 14, 2015 to Tisha B'Av, Aug. 7, 2022.

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[John]

Since nature can't come from non-existence, we know the universe did not start from nothing. And we know the universe could not always have existed, because if it had, you would have had an eternity to come into being before now and mankind would not still be sinning to to the extent it still does do along the exponential progression of conscience we are clearly on. Therefore, logically speaking, nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated. This sole uncreated Creator is whom we call God who alone was from everlasting before time and space.

A personal God trumps an absentee landlord of other religions, for how can God have standards and morals below our own as we ought to be personal and accessible to one another. Where does God reveal Himself in nature? Only did Jesus ever prove Himself personally to be God because the Apostles He spent 3 years with testified to His death on the cross such as John, with Jesus' mother and Mary, who places himself at the cross when Jesus died. But miraculously those same Apostles testified even to their deaths and as martyrs for their eyewitness testimony over and over in various group settings, for which there is no naturalistic explanation. People don't willingly die for what they know is a lie, and group hallucinations according to the DM-4 Psychology Manual says there are no such thing as group hallucinations (no accounts in history) though people can hallucinate individually different things. The Bible gives us twelve different group settings where the Apostles talked with, walked with, touched and even ate with the physically risen Lord. No better proof can be established for the authenticity of Jesus being the Creator of the universe for man can't resurrect himself so salvation is only through Him, and that unless you confess Him as your Lord and Savior you will surely die in your sins and be sent to Hell for eternity. People will not have a change of mind after they die so the decision is decided in this life. The elderly never have a change of mind with regard to Christ. It seems it is more painful for a person to repent in the next life than it would be to place oneself in subjection dependent on His Creator.

When will the judgment take place? Jesus said there would be three signs in precise order before His parousia which lasts 7 years according to Daniel and Revelation. This is the Tribulation. Before it occurs there is a great earthquake, black sackcloth solar eclipse and red blood moon we will be able to identify (Joel 2.31, Acts 2.20, Rev. 6.12).

The great earthquake was either individually or taken together Haiti 2010 and Japan 2011, for we observed the greatest number of deaths per capita, 2nd most deaths or greatest financial loss and 4th greatest magnitude on record. Taken together, there has never been a one two punch, year over year, of such proportions.

2012 passes by of no significance contrary to peoples' expectations, but in 2013 on Nov. 3 is a long H3 solar eclipse which finishes off as a total eclipse to produce that black sackcloth effect. It has only happened 3 times since Christ. Very rare! and it won't happen again till 2172. Surely this qualifies as unique and easily identifiable like the earthquake that preceded it.

Thirdly, 2014/15 is a total lunar eclipse that lands on passover, tabernacles and again on passover and tabernacles. It has happened only 7 times since Christ. The 6th and 7th time was when Israel became a nation and when Israel entered Jerusalem. Never before have two feast Tetrads been closer than 18 years apart, and the next feast Tetrad won't occur again till 2582/83. That is simply too amazing a coincidence especially after we are called to look for these signs like the three wise men who saw the star to locate the baby Jesus then another star was shown to confirm his location again so they could be certain. God often follows up a personal revelation of signs with another to confirm the certainty of the first revelation.

The probability calculation of all this (ask me how each was derived) is 2010 (earthquake) x 700 (long H3) x 100,000 (Tetrads) x 19/7 (2,520 days) x 7 (Sunday) x 7 (Tisha B'Av held over) x 6 (exact order) = 112 trillion to 1. Just ask yourself, could there be better signs? Nope. If this is not enough to satisfy you, nothing will and your choice is already made.

Since Jesus returns right at the door (Matt. 24.32-33) after Israel is a nation (1948) this wouldn't be more than a lifetime of 75 years (Ps. 90.10) by 2023 in context of what is "very near" with respect to only the past 2000 years. But since there is no 2,520 day period (360 x 7) in 2016-23 and the Tribulation can't start before 2015, we know without even calculating that there must be 2,520 days from Feast of Trumpets (first rapture according to readiness) Sept. 14, 2015 to Tisha B'Av Aug. 7, 2022 (Zech. 14.4, Acts 1.11, Rev. 1.7). Interestingly enough, 2,520 days is the smallest number divisible by all numbers from 2 to 10 as a basic working prophetic unit foreshadowing the Tribulation like when Jericho was circled 6 times (cf. 6 Seals in Revelation) by Israel in six days before the 7th time (cf. 7th Seal) on that day was circled 7 times and blowing the trumpets 7 times. The 7th Seal opens up the 7 trumpets of the Tribulation. Since the moon is a key sign, it is interesting that it is about 2,160 miles in diameter (6 x 360). Vital is Tisha B'Av when the 1st and 2nd temples were destroyed. The reason this is important is because Jesus will reign for 1000 years in the 3rd Temple (2 Thess. 2.4; Jude 14,15; Rev. 11.2, 12.5, 20.4).

For non-Christians there is nothing we can say more beyond the gospel, but for Christians knowing this in order to escape the hour of trial that is to come upon the whole world, the believer would need to keep the word of His patience (Rev. 3.10) to be received up "before the throne" (7.9) before the 1st trumpet of the Tribulation (8.7) begins. Though a Christian can't lose eternal life (John 10.28), he can lose the reward of the first rapture if he is not watchful (Matt. 24.40-42) and prayerful (Luke 21.36). As well the saved can lose the reward of returning with Christ to reign during the 1000 years (2.26, 20.4-6) as kings and priests over the nations with a "rod of iron" (12.5). Many Christians are tied down to the world like a balloon unwilling to be released and received up. Non-overcomer believers will spend 1000 years in outer darkness, outside the light of reigning with Christ during the millennial kingdom. They shall be disciplined, be full of regret and sorrow for being carnal Christians and not spiritual ones. 1000 years is a long time before they can enter the New City and New Earth in the New Heaven.

[stevah]

Non-overcomer believers will spend 1000 years in outer darkness, outside the light of reigning with Christ during the millennial kingdom. They shall be disciplined, be full of regret and sorrow for being carnal Christians and not spiritual ones. 1000 years is a long time before they can enter the New City and New Earth in the New Heaven.

I thought Jesus died for their sins. Why do they then have to suffer? This is a denial of Christ' work on the cross...repent. And stop making up wrong stuff.

[Churchwork]

Jesus died for their sins and the sins of the whole world. He died for the sins of people who go to Hell also. Those who go to Hell refuse to appropriate what God did for them so they go to Hell for all eternity. Whereas non-overcomer Christians go to outer darkness for 1000 years, because they preferred to be fleshly carnal Christians. Recall Paul drew the distinction between spiritual and carnal Christians.

Jesus' death on the cross and shedding of His blood doesn't automatically make one sinless. You still have much to overcomer, but through the power of the cross and forgiveness of sins one has the power to overcometh. This is the basis from which to start from. But people don't all overcome at the same time. There are firstfruits (Rev. 14.1-5) and a later harvest (vv.14-16). Don't think of just the distinction between wheat and the tares but there is also a distinction of time of ripening of the wheat.

Those who go to outer darkness have regret and sorrow for losing out in the millennial kingdom, but they don't suffer as it were like those who will be resurrected for Hell. Draw the distinction. There are advanced parties and harbingers in every sphere. So too is it for Christians otherwise you are antinomian which is not Christian. You're denying the work of Christ on the cross, because never does He say that you are sinless once saved. How arrogant, delusional, pretentious and obnoxious to think that. Totally not Christian!

I see that you are a non-Trinitarian in your profile, because you reject in the third question about the distinction of the 3 Persons of the Godhead, yet you call yourself a Christian and an Apostle? Also, in your profile you don't acknowledge the existence of Hell--the domain of eternal separation from God for the unsaved. Anyone who calls himself an Apostle yet does not accept these questions for Apostles his account is removed because obviously you are not an Apostle. Apostles are in agreement not disagreement.

[Churchwork]

The "sign of the Son of Man" (Matt. 24.30) in the final year of Daniel's seventieth seven is asteroid Apophis April 13, 2029 the year Jesus steps down on the mount of olives (Zech. 14.4, Acts 1.11, Rev. 1.7) somewhere between Tisha B'Av and Day of Atonement. There is a 7 year preparatory period (of plenty) after the 2014/15 Tetrad but before the 2,550 days (1260+1290 Dan. 12.11) of famine of the Tribulation from Feast of Trumpets Sept. 26, 2022 to Day of Atonement Sept. 19, 2029.

"If therefore thou shalt not watch...thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee" (Rev. 3.3). If we are not watchful we won't know when Jesus returns. There are 2,520 days (7 x 360 days) from Feast of Trumpets Sept. 14, 2015 to Tisha B'Av Aug. 7, 2022 during which time the implant to buy and sell will become ubiquitous and construction of the 3rd Temple begins, completed by Passover 2023, and thus, cleansed after 2300 days (Dan. 8.14) on Tisha B'Av 2029.

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As I look at the approaching date of Sept. 14, 2015 Feast of Trumpets, I find it hard to believe that construction on the 3rd Temple will begin by 2015 as well as the global implementation of the implant to be able to buy and sell. So like many were disappointed by the name of the new Pope not fulfilling the Malchy Prophecy, many Christians will be disturbed by when 2015 rolls around and nothing happens.

The last possible year for the Vatican to be nuked is 2019 since the first half of the 7 years is from 2015 to 2019 (second half is 2019 to 2022), and Rev. 17.16 takes place in the first half . This will be a major mind twist if the prophecy of the Tetrads passes us by uneventful.

What does this mean? Firstly, it tells us that "right at the door" (Matt. 24.33) is more than a lifetime of 70 to 80 years (Ps. 90.10). And if it is longer than a lifetime then it could refer to an indefinite period of time where nobody can know the day of the Lord when it begins, thusly, when the first rapture according to readiness takes place (Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10).

God is always throwing things for a loop, but we can be confident and comforted His way is always best even though many signs appear to be pointing to specific dates and times with our human reasoning. The next period to look for is 2029 to 2036 surrounding the massive asteroid that comes within satellite distance of the earth.

Though "the impact odds as they stand now are less than one in a million, which makes us comfortable saying we can effectively rule out an Earth impact in 2036,” Don Yeomans, manager of NASA's Near-Earth Object Program Office, said in a statement. The office is based at the agency's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif.

But there is one factor that stands out to me more than anything. It is that Rev. 6.12 occurs shortly before the Tribulation. If these 3 events in this verse by all accounts are 2010-2015 then it stands to reason it will not be that many years after for Daniel's final seven to take place lasting 7 years.

Therefore, we can conclude at the absolute outside the Tribulation must begin by the end of this decade even though that seems quite unreasonable because it ought to be linked to the Tetrads and within a lifetime from 1948.

The data suggests that the Tribulation should start Sept. 14, 2015 on Feast of Trumpets, but the problem is: (a) the implant under the skin is not widely distributed by then, and (b) 3rd Temple construction won't be completed by 2016 with 2300 days left to the Tribulation.

There is in fact a 7 year preparation before the Tribulation begins. So I see the 2,520 days from 2022 to 2029. Sept. 26 Feast of Trumpets, 2022 to Day of Atonement Sept. 19, 2029 is exactly 2,550 days. 7 years x 360 = 2,520 days. Day of Atonement is 30 days more so 2,550 days. From the 1260th day to the 1290th day Jesus judges the nations.

I got this adjustment of a 7 year preparation period from this site:

http://freestockphotos.com/COMING1/2030SecondComing.htm

The story of Joseph may predict a seven year period of abundance given to prepare for the Tribulation.

Joseph was told that there would be seven years of abundance to prepare Egypt for the seven years of famine that would follow. Genesis 41:25-49. This may be a prophetic type of a seven year period of abundance that will precede the Tribulation as a time for the Church and Israel to prepare. This principal of Divine warning to make preparation for a specified period of tribulation is seen in other Biblical examples:

• Noah was warned to prepare food and enter the ark 7 days before the flood began.
• Rahab was warned 7 days before the battle of Jericho and so made plans to safeguard her family. She was taken out by the two spies after the 7th trumpet on the 7th day.
• Israel was warned to prepare provisions 7 days before they crossed the Jordan to Jericho.
• Elisha warned the Shunamite woman about the 7 year famine that was about to occur.
• Israel was promised abundant crops before the land was rested on the Sabbatical Year.

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Referenced Article: "Total Lunar Tetrad and Red Blood Moon"
Section: "Third Temple Construction ..."
Statement 1: "The 3rd temple must commence breaking ground by 2013..."
Statement 2: ... "So from now until 2013, Islamic nations will put on a full scale attack against Israel."
Please explain why this has not happened.
Thanks.