Originally Posted by
CARM
Troy
I have a few questions for you.
If Jesus was to atone for the WHOLE worlds sin and since we KNOW that not all are saved....doesn't this make Christs COMPLETED work on the cross a failure?
Would God subject His Son to a brutal and humiliating death on a cross for the sole purpose of only "offering" salvation to all mankind just to have Him humiliated all over again at the hands of rejecting men?
Is our God a feeble God who sits around twitteling His thumbs after Calvary waiting on the decisions of His CREATION?
Is our God even sovereign?
Does Eph 2:8-10 include the cooperation of men?
Is Romans Chapter 3 just one big lie?
Does the core definitions of Predestination and Election validate YOUR view?
If God is sovereign then is it not arrogant to ASSUME that His CREATION has more power than the CREATOR to completely change the nature that was GIVEN him?
If a man is totally depraved in nature....how can he grasp that which he runs from?
How do you reconcile the first chapter in Ephesians with your view?
I could go on and on showing that your view produces more questions than answers but I will leave you with this....
God does not require anything of us for salvation because there is nothing in us worth requiring! The whole notion that man has a "free-will" is true in this way: man is totally and completely free to make decisions according to the nature that was GIVEN him. That nature is corrupt and so is our choices. That is why even OUR righteousness is but "filthy rags" in the sight of God. Our "good" choices and "good"acts are good according to whose standards? MAN! There is nothing good in us...our heart is desperately wicked! Man does take freely of the water of life.....when it is offered to him, who wouldn't? The reason that he does EVERY time is due to him understanding what is offered to him seen through the eyes of a regenerated heart! Man CANNOT regenerate his own heart. A dead man is dead! If you didn't have anything to do with your natural birth then how can you possibly have anything to do with you spiritual re-birth? You cant! Once a mans heart has been opened to understand the things of the spirit (this done by God) then man has no choice but to see himself for what he is....a lost soul deserving hell and this MAKES a man run to the cross! All of which is orchestrated by God for His own purpose! Period! To say otherwise is to glorify man. God is the author of our salvation.
May we all grow in Grace and remember, it is NEVER about us, it is ALWAYS about Him!
Wolf
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