Quote Originally Posted by calibron
Who cares what Paul says when Jesus himself says different. So are you now a paulian?
Quote Originally Posted by calibron
I didn't say they disagree
You said, "Who cares what Paul says when Jesus himself says different." Then with your doubletongue, you said, "I didn't say they disagree." You have no context to say they disagree.

All Christians are Paulian since all Christians agree with Paul. Why do you hate Paul so much?

Bottom line: you are going to Hell, because the Bible says Jesus created all things, but you say Jesus did not create all things but was created by the Father. Thus, you reject the atonement for what and who Jesus is on the cross who was the Creator of all things, time and space, and all beings. You most definitely are going to Hell, rejecting the traditional teachings of the Bible.

Jesus said unless you are willing to confess who He is to others, He denies you before the Father in Heaven (Matt. 10.32,33). If you are ashamed of Him, He said, He is ashamed of you (Mark. 8.38). And if you are not for Jesus who He truly is, He is against you (Matt. 12.30).