Scott Sigler, realize how you contradict yourself, for you said "Our creation wasn't our beginning. Neither was our birth" (see thread).

Therefore, your false Christ wasn't able to create all things for your beginning would most certainly be included in "all" things. There is no way around this. Creation is the beginning for anything that is created. Changing the word "creation" to mean not completely created is not creating all things and frankly, disingenuous and an equivocation. An equivocation ("to call by the same name") is an informal logical fallacy. It is the misleading use of a term (by glossing over which meaning is intended at a particular time).

By claiming you always existed, you pridefully exalt yourself alongside God. Only God always existed. God wants you to get over yourself and your evil cult of Mormonism.

"All things were made by him [Jesus]; and without him was not any thing made that was made" (John 1.3). John wrote Jesus made all things: "all" things were made by Him. It never said, but some things were not made by Jesus, nor did it say there were material/matter/intelligences (a made up idea) that always existed as in atheism. Mormons are really atheists, dressed up in magic underwear, and try to give a supernatural element to their atheism.

This is the stupidest cult I think I have ever encountered. Suffice it to say the god of Mormonism is not God of the Bible, because the Mormon god is unable to create all things. He needs the pre-existence of material to create people, whereas God the Son was able to create from out of Himself and didn't need pre-existing materials. God was alone was from everlasting, no gods beside Him, before Him, or after Him, nothing! He was alone from everlasting in His 3 Persons.

God of the Bible brings time and space into existence. The Mormon god is unable to do this. Mormons worship, therefore, a false Christ, so they are going to Hell.

Praise the Lord for this discernment! Amen.