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    Are Atheists Going to Hell?

    The proof for God is very simple and does not need a PhD in quantum physics or MD. God is no respecter of persons. A brilliant scholar or scientist has no advantage over a mongoloid child. Since everyone has access to this proof readily available in their own thoughts and conscience what then is that proof for God? (thus rendering atheism and agnosticism nonsense)

    Start from what we know. We know that nature always has a cause and effect. We observe trillions of cause and effects in nature, and no hard evidence of something from nothing, which is an overwhelming preponderance of evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. You don't need to know every last thing to know God exists. An overwhelming preponderance of evidence beyond a reasonable doubt will suffice. Besides if your position is that you need to know all things to know if God exists you are essentially saying you have to be God all-knowing to know if God exists which is absurd since obviously you are not God, and frankly, you're not that bright. You can't even remember fully what happened to you yesterday. And I am sure you sinned multiple times yesterday as well, but God has no sin (unhealthy habits). The audacity and arrogance of some people claim they have no errors or sin in their thoughts and conduct.

    The only other option is the universe always existed, but this fails on its head, because if there was this alleged infinite regress of cause and effects of nature, you would have had, by that definition, an eternity to come into being before now so you should have already happened. And you would never have existed because a past eternity would continue for eternity in the past never to reach this point since it goes on forever. That's the nature of the silliness of a past eternity. It is, merely, a man made fantasy, construct and false.

    And so nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated. This uncreated Creator is whom we call God.

    Now that you know God exists, find out where He reveals Himself. Just as we are personal and accessible so must God be for He cannot be less than His creation. There are only 3 faiths in the world that are accessible, comprising 90% of all faiths: Christianity, Islam and Hinduism. But only one teaches salvation is not by works lest anyone should boast. The other two are works based faiths (thus, false). Man's arrogance thinks he can bridge the gap between himself and God by his own self-power. No amount of self-strength and works will bridge the gap between you and God to satisfy Him. Only God satisfies God. Hence, God the Son personally enters His creation to pay the penalty for our sins, and resurrected the 3rd day, that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. The rest go to Hell. Still to this day nobody has been able to find a naturalistic explanation to account for the eyewitness testimony of the Apostles in various group settings seeing Jesus alive from the dead. Group hallucinations are impossible. People don't willingly die for what they know is a lie. And the swoon theory would not convince anyone Jesus is the risen Lord all tattered and torn, scourged down to the bone, spear in His chest cavity and heart, and holes in his hands and feet, unable to walk.

    Free will is not truly free if you don't have this free choice to eternally separate yourself from God by going to Hell. Note this choice is a choice for forever. It is not as if after a billion years in Hell you will have a change of mind. You will be where you belong forever! One example I can give of this mentality is the reason why Satan is released at the end of the millennial kingdom for a short while is to show that he will never repent.

    Atheists, agnostics and agtheists are bad people!

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    Re: Particles @ achristianandanatheist.com

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    No, the Christians here don't care much for you neither, as is often the case with you. It's not like this is the only place to ban you.
    Of course Christians at achristianandanatheist.com care for me since we are the body of Christ chosen before the foundations of the world as brothers and sisters in Christ. You have no awareness of the body of Christ because your spirit is dead to God. You have many theories and conjectures but nothing based in reality. You are without authority to make claims on the body. Of course Christians are banned at achristianandanatheist.com and elsewhere as Christians have been martyred throughout the centuries. After registering a few days ago and posting a few times, I came to post today at achristianandanatheist.com, and found that my account was deleted, so I had to register again with the same username. This shows you are not coming to the table to discuss sincerely.

    One of the mistakes you are making is assuming it is not just atheists that are banning but also Christians who are banning, but that's not the case. You still don't know what a Christian is. A Christian is not a Roman Catholic since they believe in salvation by works and reject the Jesus who returns to reign on earth for 1000 years. The group that killed more Christians in the history of the Church were the Roman Catholics. A Christian is not a Calvinist for that is diabolically opposite to the gospel of salvation so Augustine, John Calvin and today's James White and John MacArthur were never born-again. John Calvin was that murdering Protestant Pope of Geneva who killed many Christians because we are OSAS Arminian. So though you thought it was a Christian banning, it was not the case at all. The Bible says to discern between false Christians and actual Christians - those who worship a false Christ and those who worship Jesus. Don't be a dullard!

    There is no lake of fire. If Jesus were real, he would throw you in it if Jesus hated assholes that much. Be grateful there is no such Jesus and no such lake, and stop wasting your life obsessing over it. There is no Jesus, no heaven, no hell. There is just this life. You're lucky to be here as a human. Relatively few get the chance.
    Jesus is the most documented person in antiquity more than any ten figures combined so to think Jesus did not exist shows you are a few screws short of a bolt. According to your own words you are an asshole. Since you admit you can't find a naturalistic explanation to account for the eyewitness testimony of the Apostles in various group settings you concede evidentially Jesus is God. Hell is needed, because free will is not truly free if you don't have the free choice to reject God and separate yourself from Him. God is choosing out a people for Himself. He doesn't force His love on anyone so the choice is yours where you want to spend eternity.

    Here, you give a date for Jesus's return by 2023.
    Jesus returns by 2023? Where do you get that? Jesus could not return prior to the great earthquake, black sackcloth sun and red blood moon in Rev. 6.12 which occurred from 2010-15. Jesus also can't return prior to the completion of the 3rd Temple. 2023 doesn't refer to when Jesus returns, but it refers to the year in which Passover 2023 to Tisha B'Av 2029 is 2300 days after which time the Temple is cleansed (Dan. 8.14).

    So you formed your argument by shutting your mind down and claiming something that was not predicted. It is a sin to bear false witness. Satan is that great false accuser. Nobody predicted Jesus would return 2023 so you're confused. There are multiple precedent cases in Scripture of 7 years of plenty before 7 years of famine, so after the 7 years of plenty from 2015-22 follows the 7 years of famine of the Tribulation from 2022 to 2029. The "sign of the Son of Man" (Matt. 24.30) is asteroid Apophis April 13, 2029. Can you think of anything more dramatic than that? I can't. It is about 3 football fields in length and comes within 25,000 miles, satellite distance, of earth. Last time an asteroid of this size hit earth was 80,000 years ago, today which would kill tens of millions.

    The first rapture is according to readiness Sept. 26, 2022 Feast of Trumpets (Matt. 24.40-42, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10). Then there are 2,550 days (1260 + 1290 Dan. 12.11), part of Daniel's 70th seven (Dan. 9.24-27), from Feast of Trumpets Sept. 26, 2022 "before the throne" (Rev. 7.9) to the Day of Atonement Sept. 19, 2029. Jesus returns somewhere between Tisha B'Av 2029 and the Day of Atonement 2029. Tisha B'Av is important because that was when the 1st and 2nd Temples were destroyed. Interestingly, there are 75 days from Tisha B'Av to Simchat Torah (the last Jewish feast) when the Torah scroll is taken out of the Holy of Holies to be read once a year. 75 days comprises of 30 days more from the 1260th day to the 1290th day (Dan. 12.11) when Jesus judges the nations; then 45 days more to the 1335th day (Dan. 12.12) He sets up Israel as the center of all nations from where He will reign on earth with His overcomers for 1000 years.

    When you see these things take place maybe you will reconsider and give your life to Christ. I am praying for you.

    Good riddance, dickhead.
    You know very well using your own words you are being a "dickhead". Would Jesus ever speak like that? Of course not.

    In terms of signs for you to see what I am telling you is true, consider the construction on the 3rd Temple. It must be completed, as was said, by Passover 2023 so there are 2300 days left to Tisha B'Av 2029. The temple in Brazil that cost $300 million took 4 years to build. If the 3rd Temple takes 4 years, construction must begin no later than 2020.

    If you want a sign even before 2020, we just had the 3 signs of Rev. 6.12 from 2010-15 which never happened before in history. It is unprecedented. One other thing you might want to look at is there were 21 days from Tammuz 17 when the Jews stopped their sacrifices for 3 weeks, finalizing on Tisha B'Av when the 1st and 2nd Temples were destroyed. There were 21 years from 1994 Comet Shoemaker that broke up into 21 pieces, to 2015. 7 years to 2001 the DJIA dropped 7% on Elul 29 of the Shemitah give back year after 911. The same happened again on Elul 29, 2008, a Shemitah year. The S&P 500 bottomed out in 2009 at 666, and Sept. 13, 2015 Elul 29, is the next sign in about 2 months from now.

    Will there be a drop of 7% again in the DJIA or perhaps a 7% drop in the US Dollar Index? USA has legalized same sex marriage in 50 states. That is a perfect sign of a falling nation which will incur great judgment. At any rate this drop will be part of a greater move down that will unfold in the coming years.

    Isaac Newton, some say had the highest IQ of anyone in history, who studied prophecy more than the cosmos, said Jesus would return Sept. 23, 2015, Day of Atonement, which he derived from a double fulfillment of the declaration to rebuild Jerusalem would take 7 sets of 7 or 17,640 days (7 x 7 x 360) in Dan. 9.24-27. There were 17,640 days from June 7, 1967 when Israel took over Jerusalem to Sept. 23, 2015 Day of Atonement. What Newton missed though was the 7 years of plenty followed by the 7 years of famine. And there was no way he could have known about asteroid Apophis 2029. He also was not privy to the fact the 3rd Temple construction has not begun yet.

    Consider these extra 7 years God has tagged on from 2015 to 2022 before the Tribulation 2015-22 as the patience of God for you to repent and give your life to Christ, because He is long suffering not wanting any to perish (2 Pet. 3.9). How gracious He has been to you by all this information you have been supplied so you are "without excuse" (Rom. 1.20).

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