1967 or 1969 marks the decree to rebuild?

[humblehorse]

Please bring me up to speed...

The declaration to rebuild the Temple was Nisan 1, 444 BC
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Jesus was born Tishri 15, 6 BC
Can you send me to links or put the info here?

And your answers for why we use the 360 day year all come from assumptions, have a look at http://www.360calendar.com/ and let me know what you think.

[Churchwork]

Birth of Jesus Tishri 15, 6 BC,
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/triangulating.htm

Jesus died April 1, 33 AD (Gregorian) on a lunar eclipse,
http://www.raptureready.com/featured...isitation.html
http://www.raptureready.com/featured...0-weeks-6.html

There is no assumptions. Israel used the 360 day year and every couple of years added back an extra 30 days.

[Churchwork]

Birth of Jesus Tishri 15, 6 BC,
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/triangulating.htm

Jesus died April 1, 33 AD (Gregorian) on a lunar eclipse,
http://www.raptureready.com/featured...isitation.html
http://www.raptureready.com/featured...0-weeks-6.html

There are no assumptions. Israel used the 360 day year and every couple of years added back an extra 30 days. No matter what calendar method you use, a day is still a day. Worrying about what the correct calendar is silly. They are all right. And clearly 1260 days is 7 x 360. There are various ways to prove the Bible wants us to concern ourselves with the prophetic year of 360 days, but I like the fact that Ezekiel's prophecy on his side using the 360 day year takes us to May, 1948,
http://biblocality.com/forums/conten...a-Nation-Again

Like I said the only real issue before us is whether Matt. 24.32-33 is referring to when Israel was a nation again or is it referring to when the Antichrist is the Temple in the last 3 1/2 years (v.15)? It just seems strange to me these two verses would just be an analogy to when the Antichrist and surrounding events come and not referring to Israel, because Jesus was just before cursing the fig tree as Israel which had outward showing of leaves but no life since it bore no fruit.

Did you know that 2015 is the 120th Jubilee of 6000 years?
http://biblocality.com/forums/conten...m-3986-to-2015

Petrus Romanus is about to be the next Pope who is the 666th Pope (112th Pope) by adding up the Roman numerals. He is suppose to be the False Prophet that brings in the Antichrist. And according to the prophecy of the popes, they are suppose to reign on average 11 years. Some popes were murdered so that 11 year average could be maintained. Others reigned longer than they ought to to keep the average going. The existing pope must be replaced in 2012 to maintain that 11 year average. It is crazy and evil I think.

I believe the Cardinals have been electing Popes to match up with their coat of arms.

But I am looking forward to the existing pope to not be replaced until after 2012 so the prophecy fails.

In this prophecy Rome on 7 hills is suppose to be destroyed, not necessarily 2012 but during the reign of this 112th pope.

The only necessary qualification for the 112th pope is he has to be Italian. He doesn't have to be named Peter as all popes are considered sitting on the throne of Peter.

[humblehorse]

I do agree with a lot of what you've said in your previous posts, regarding stopping sacrifices, Peter the final pope, rebuilt temples, etc... I think we're pretty much on the same page regarding what's to come, but I would be a little more cautious about using phrases like 'There are no assumptions' when dealing with the past!

I checked out your birth of Jesus dates, and I have to say that the Bethlehem star video wins hands down for accuracy and true cosmic signs over and above speculation over who might have lived and died, and what they did at what point!! You can't argue with the heavens... Herod's date of death is unknown, all we really know is that Josephus said he died the day after an eclipse, and there was a total eclipse in 1BC and a partial one in 4BC, also when the bible refers to Herod it doesn't always mean Herod the great, it could equally be his 3 Herod sons that ruled after him.

The Blood moon that occurs over Jerusalem at the Crucifixion was on April 3rd 33AD, so you're only 2 days out. - Good call!

I've thought hard about this bit!
Regarding the 360 day year, I've been thinking... Firstly, yes during the times of Noah there were 360 days per year, but it appears this had changed by the time of the Exodus, according to the Talmud. And it would also appear from very early writings that the sun used to rise in the West and set in the East!?

Lets say that the earth used to spin slightly slower, so only rotated 360 times during one orbit of the sun, and it's now sped up so that it rotates 365.24 times in one orbit of the sun... The length of the year remains unchanged, it's just the amount of days that has changed because the earth spins faster.

Your calculations are suggesting that Earth is hurtling through space slower than it was, still spinning at it's original speed... which one would seem more likely???

If it's the first option, then a year remains the same length, if it's the 2nd option then time is slower, not faster like the 360 to 365.24 day conversion would give you...
Don't just ignore this 'cos it takes a little while to get your head round it!

The answer is, I do not know the answers to these questions and neither do you, so truly you have made assumptions....

Peace & Love Brother (I'm assuming)
humblehorse

[Churchwork]

Birth of Jesus
You can disagree all you want, but if you have no good reason for doing so then check your heart. Don't worry about what Joseph said, stick with your Bible. What does it say? He is not a Christian and was quite far removed from the birth of Jesus. And besides, there are partial and total solar and lunar eclipses happening all the time, all together, as many as 7 per year.
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEcat5/SE-0099-0000.html
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/LEcat5/LE-0099-0000.html

Jesus was born on Tishri 15, but no solar or lunar eclipse on that date in your prescribed years for His birth. The full proof was supplied. http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/triangulating.htm

That video you keep addressing is definitely false. I have seen it. It is impossible for Jesus to have been born after 4 BC, that is 4 BC, 3 BC, 2 BC, etc. There is no question about what Herod we are talking about.

We know Jesus would have been about 2-3 years old around 4 BC when He and his parents returned to Israel from Egypt because Herod had died, and the angel would have told Joseph and Mary as soon as Herod died.

Even Richard Carrier, a non-Christian, admits "Even after the civil wars were ended, Augustus was only able to complete three of the general censuses in his long reign." These were taken in 28 B.C., 8 B.C., and 14 A.D. [Augustus says this too in his own writings as some of his major accomplishments].

Assuming it takes about a year or so for the news to get to the people that they need to return to their home towns to take the census, this places the birth of Jesus one to two years after 8 BC and 2 years before 4 BC which brings us to 7-6 BC.

Jesus was born at the time of the census because Luke writes, "At that time the Roman emperor, Augustus decreed that a census should be taken throughout the Roman Empire" (2.1); and,

"All returned to their own towns to register for this census. And because Joseph was a descendant of King David, he had to go to Bethlehem in Judea, David's ancient home. He traveled there from the village of Nazareth in Galilee. He took with him Mary, his fiancee, who was obviously pregnant by this time. And while they were there, the time came for her baby to be born. She gave birth to her first child, a son. She wrapped him snuggly in strips of cloth and laid him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the village in" (2.4-7).

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Jesus' Death
April 3, 33 AD is the Julian calendar. I gave the Gregorian calendar date of the partial lunar eclipse April 1, 33 AD when Jesus died. It's the same day, just two different calenders.

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360 Day Year
The 360 day year is not about the earth speeding up or slowing down. How silly. It was just for ease of calculation. Every couple of years they would add an extra 30 days to balance things out.

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Dumb Comments
I really want to remove your post because it is kind of mindless. I know you are assuming. It's probably better you don't post unless you are 100% sure about what you are saying because even then you will be wrong often. Now, you are almost always wrong in everything you write. That's too much!

These forums are for well thought out intellectual and spiritual comments that provide evidence of Scripture. I don't want to dumb down these forums with comments like you just made. See the bad effect all that rock music you play is having on you! It dumbs you down.