The Atheist Experience Show Pre-Show #759 and #760

[Churchwork]

At the 38:50 mark a girl calls in and says she has been an atheist for two months and that before that she was agnostic. The hosts, Jen Peeples and Russell Glasser nodded and agreed. At the 55:00 mark, Jen said there was a caller on line 4 about the Bible. That was me waiting the entire show to speak (I was promised I could ask my question prior to the show), and then Russell said "they dropped him on purpose." They didn't actually drop me but just didn't let me speak till about 15 minutes after the show was done as I have exposed them before, and they could not handle what I had to say before, so they didn't want it on air.

However, the girl who spoke at 38:50 is not the girl I was referring to who called in and asked if she was atheist because she believed that God does not exist. Jen replied and said that that was correct, she is an atheist because she believes God does not exist. What should concern you though is because that question is not on the edited program, obviously they edited it out, because it is quite damning to their view as it contradicts Russell's view that you can be both atheist and agnostic.

Atheists have a hard time agree with themselves. Whereas all theists agree the uncreated Creator exists. The question then becomes whose deity is the correct one?

[Churchwork]

Troy,
I just realized who you are – the logical fallacy vending machine! If you think you “won” the last time you were on, then you are a classic example of the Dunning-Kruger syndrome. The hosts didn’t need more time to dismiss your arguments, but if you want to try again, have at it.

“The burden is on you because you take the position as an atheist that "God does not exist." I don't need to prove God exists, but you need to supply evidence for your claim God does not exist.“

All that’s necessary to be an atheist is to disbelieve your claim that a god exists. I don’t have to go on to make the claim that gods don’t. If you are claiming that some god exists, and especially if you claim that a particular god exists, you *do* have to provide evidence for that claim. This is Logic 101, and if you don’t understand this, you’re going to have a very difficult time.

When you call - *if* you call - you should first decide if you’re arguing a philosophical point or for a specific god. If it’s a specific god, start by defining which god you are claiming exists. Then you should be prepared to offer evidence to support your assertion that this god exists. Most of us on The Atheist Experience are former Christians, so we’ve already investigated and rejected scripture as evidence for your god’s existence. If that’s all you have, well, you’re going to have a difficult time indeed.

The show broadcasts live from Austin, TX, so it should have been a trivial matter for you to figure out that the correct time zone is CST.

Jen

You are a classice example of logical fallacy vending machine don't you know? The host didn't need more time to dismiss my argument because eternity is not enough time to do so.

That's a logical fallacy to say, "All that's necessary to be an atheist is to disbelieve your claim that god exists" because you supply no evidence for your claim that God does not exist. That's like someone saying, "All that's necessary to believe the earth is flat is to disbelieve someone who says it revolves around the sun." Funny. Dumb! Retarded.

First you must come to the table honestly and admit you have no evidence to believe God does not exist, become an agnostic, then we can procede accordingly by examining the 5 points I gave why God exists and who God is. It's very elementary dear Watson.

It is also illogical to claim you are are former Christian, because a Christian is definied as being "once-saved-always-saved," therefore, you are being dishonest. You would have to admit you were never a Christian to begin with.

Once we establish that that position of atheism is false and that you are agnostic, we can go on to examine the proof for the existence of the uncreated Creator and who the uncreator Creator is by the proof supplied in the 66 books of the Bible since this is the proof text.