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    alive,

    I reject your god in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit because the Bible says we are not saved by works lest any man should boast. It really is that simple for me. We are saved by faith.

    "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast" (Eph. 2.8-9).

    You sure are trying hard to rationalize your false faith. No amount of work could make up the gap between an infinitely great God and a sinner to get saved or be kept saved. God knows this that's why He gave His only begotten Son. To bad you don't accept who He says He is and what He requires of you, thus, you are going to Hell, having eternally separated yourself from the love of God and God Himself.

    Since you reject Jesus for your false Christ naturally you reject His apostles His directly chose to set up the churches. At least your a consistent in your hostility.

    It is really is quite sad you don't want to give your life to the Jesus who keeps who lets no one pluck His own out of His hand. What you prefer is a Jesus with an "out-clause"--an option to leave the marriage if you don't feel like you are really into it after awhile. The real Jesus and His Father won't save you to begin with with that kind of attitude. This shows you were never born-again, never saved, never given eternal life. Up to now you have just been living a lie. You're delusional.

    Self-exaltation is at the core of your problem. Humility is not what you want to enter into repentantly the faith of a Christian to let go completely and place your trust in the Lord and Savior. You're too scared to let go of control of self.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchwork View Post
    alive,

    I reject your god in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit because the Bible says we are not saved by works lest any man should boast. It really is that simple for me. We are saved by faith.

    "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast" (Eph. 2.8-9).

    You sure are trying hard to rationalize your false faith. No amount of work could make up the gap between an infinitely great God and a sinner to get saved or be kept saved. God knows this that's why He gave His only begotten Son. To bad you don't accept who He says He is and what He requires of you, thus, you are going to Hell, having eternally separated yourself from the love of God and God Himself.

    Since you reject Jesus for your false Christ naturally you reject His apostles His directly chose to set up the churches. At least your a consistent in your hostility.

    It is really is quite sad you don't want to give your life to the Jesus who keeps who lets no one pluck His own out of His hand. What you prefer is a Jesus with an "out-clause"--an option to leave the marriage if you don't feel like you are really into it after awhile. The real Jesus and His Father won't save you to begin with with that kind of attitude. This shows you were never born-again, never saved, never given eternal life. Up to now you have just been living a lie. You're delusional.

    Self-exaltation is at the core of your problem. Humility is not what you want to enter into repentantly the faith of a Christian to let go completely and place your trust in the Lord and Savior. You're too scared to let go of control of self.



    ofcourse churchwork you would reject my god - FOR 2000yrs this counterfeit calling itself ''christian'' has rejected the sayings of jesus.
    churchwork - your'e in a COUNTERFEIT system - ruled by satan AND DONT know it.
    yes, you do quote the bible
    yes, you do study the bible
    but NO you dont understand it for the church system only has a FORM OF GODLINESS but not the real thing.

    have u ever considered Churchwork - u r a work of this system - a self satisified rabble of rebels who cannot even agree with each other as they are a HOUSE DIVIDED - and we know a HOUSE DIVIDED AGAINST ITSELF CANNOT STAND.
    Yeshua did not come to start a religion but to begin a relationship with a small remnant called 'heirs of salvation'' who HE PURCHASED FOR HIMSELF - born of His spirit and washed in His blood.
    In this small group are many from all nations - witnesses of His eternal life.
    notice Chruchwork the NT said ''few find eternal life'' - so what do the majority find - a counterfeit system posing as christlike yet bearing the fruit of slaves to the law of sin and death.
    The pimps are in the pulpit
    those pop-artists theologists and their man made lordship over the ignorant masses.....
    you have been conned Churchwork and a slave to sin - hence u die.
    the pews die daily.

    churchwork - if Yeshua was their church Pastor - would HE BE IN CHARGE OF THEIR FUNERAL SERVICES?
    ummmm.
    the hirelings, the pimps, have NO power - they are powerless as the pews are powerless and none ever attain to the image of Christ.
    all that stupid wasted effort, posing as a 'christian' person when ''christlikeness'' is far from them.

    yes indeed Chruchwork - I DONT WANT YOUR GOD - he is far to febble for me to worship.
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    why not walk away from your rebellious church creed and into THE TRUE LIFE OF THE SAVIOUR.
    why not study to be approved.

    why not cast off the brainwashing of satan'S CHURCH and his oppressive religion and come out and join THE LIFE OF CHRIST.
    WHY NOT BECOME A.....
    The Prisoners Of Hope”.
    [those who keep My sayings shall never see death'']

    “Your circumstances are but for a short time.
    They will turn around and you shall receive the double portion blessing.
    Your prison is not a pit but a high place in the Potter’s workshop. You have a Hope birthed within.
    Draw on this for it is your strength. This Hope is from The Lord for you to hang on to. It is not a “maybe”, but the Hope of Truth and strength which carried Jesus to the cross with great joy in the Glory which would follow and His restoration to Life Immortal. This is your Hope; let it be your stronghold, for surely you will prevail”.


    ALL GLORY TO JESUS

    LARRY WILSON

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    You reject the God who keeps His elect, those who are born-again, whom He shall never let perish. That's why you are going to Hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchwork View Post
    You reject the God who keeps His elect, those who are born-again, whom He shall never let perish. That's why you are going to Hell.
    no, you are called 'churchwork'' - after a counterfeit system.
    it fails to reproduce CHRIST in its people.
    2000yrs has passed and NOT 1 person has attained to the image of Christ.

    why not?
    it is an utter failure for the Messiah is not there - satan is as a counterfeit and u have been deceived.
    why?

    ''for u loved not the truth to be saved''.

    again i ask
    WOULD THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD - CONDUCT DAILY FUNERAL SERVICES as pastors do.
    churchwork - right there is THE TRUTH and the PROOF - the system of hirelings your'e in is an apostate corruption.
    you are a part of this team.
    have you noticed churchwork you actually cannot receive the truth for your actually dont answer the main questions- you ramble on as if your'e blinded and bewitched and totally loveless.
    like a shell without dignity or feeling.

    this is how u present yourself to this forum - is it any wonder ye have NO sheep to feed.
    why did they all go about Nov 2011?

    did u ban them all?

    why on earth do u think your'e THE ELECT?
    what a terrible thought - to have someone like you rule over others - without mercy, love nor compassion.
    yuke.


    you need to walk away from that failure
    you need to exit fast from that great harlot
    you need to move your butt out from satan's lordship

    churchwork - YOU NEED TRANSFORMATION - INTO HIS WORKMANSHIP
    because at this moment u r a real puker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alive View Post
    no, you are called 'churchwork'' - after a counterfeit system.
    it fails to reproduce CHRIST in its people.
    2000yrs has passed and NOT 1 person has attained to the image of Christ.

    why not?
    it is an utter failure for the Messiah is not there - satan is as a counterfeit and u have been deceived.
    why?

    ''for u loved not the truth to be saved''.

    again i ask
    WOULD THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD - CONDUCT DAILY FUNERAL SERVICES as pastors do.
    churchwork - right there is THE TRUTH and the PROOF - the system of hirelings your'e in is an apostate corruption.
    you are a part of this team.
    have you noticed churchwork you actually cannot receive the truth for your actually dont answer the main questions- you ramble on as if your'e blinded and bewitched and totally loveless.
    like a shell without dignity or feeling.

    this is how u present yourself to this forum - is it any wonder ye have NO sheep to feed.
    why did they all go about Nov 2011?

    did u ban them all?

    why on earth do u think your'e THE ELECT?
    what a terrible thought - to have someone like you rule over others - without mercy, love nor compassion.
    yuke.


    you need to walk away from that failure
    you need to exit fast from that great harlot
    you need to move your butt out from satan's lordship

    churchwork - YOU NEED TRANSFORMATION - INTO HIS WORKMANSHIP
    because at this moment u r a real puker.
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    however there is hope = Father , Abba [thats the name my Saviour called His Father] only needs a small crack to begin His work in the apostate ''churchians''.

    therefore churchwork you have to reconsider your apostate plight - ask to be born again FROM ABOVE not from your creed belief nor church memberships nor any other belief u now have. YOU NEED TO ENTER INTO THE REST OF THE 4TH DIMENSION and be made available for Christ [the powerfully force] to dwell within you.

    therefore u have to ask this ?
    why hasnt your man ruled over church stystem ever produced any person in the likeness of Christ - now answer this - and it will be your first step out from the religious cash cow, paid hirelings and pop theologists and their religious quackery.
    BTW it is a very hard thing to admit your'e been duped.

    perhaps it is time for you troy to grow up and cut the slack from a man made up church belief and come out from satanic deception - your religion is a hoax of 1/2 truth and lies and all die in sin who enter into such a catastropic belief.

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    You reject the God who keeps His elect, those who are born-again, whom He shall never let perish. That's why you are going to Hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alive View Post
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    however there is hope = Father , Abba [thats the name my Saviour called His Father] only needs a small crack to begin His work in the apostate ''churchians''.

    therefore churchwork you have to reconsider your apostate plight - ask to be born again FROM ABOVE not from your creed belief nor church memberships nor any other belief u now have. YOU NEED TO ENTER INTO THE REST OF THE 4TH DIMENSION and be made available for Christ [the powerfully force] to dwell within you.

    therefore u have to ask this ?
    why hasnt your man ruled over church stystem ever produced any person in the likeness of Christ - now answer this - and it will be your first step out from the religious cash cow, paid hirelings and pop theologists and their religious quackery.
    BTW it is a very hard thing to admit your'e been duped.

    perhaps it is time for you troy to grow up and cut the slack from a man made up church belief and come out from satanic deception - your religion is a hoax of 1/2 truth and lies and all die in sin who enter into such a catastropic belief.


    i see troy u cannot answer the ?
    again
    why has your churchwork and church system FAILED TO REPRODUCE CHRIST in its pews?

    i see your'e only really capable of reproducing platitudes.... as senseless rhetoric.... like all false apostles -
    they have No answers.

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    Realize you are not a Christian so your input is irrelevant, for the word of God is understood and discerned by the Holy Spirit which you do not have. The evil spirit resides in your innerman.

    A Christian is someone who gives their life to the God who keeps and never lets go of those born-again. Whereas you claim your alleged salvation now you could lose tomorrow as you admit you are a non-OSASer. Salvation is not by works lest anyone should boast.

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    same old same old rehash Troy......
    doing it your'e way has never once reproduced a saint let alone anyone in the Image of Christ,
    there is your church
    there is your aimless life
    your'e not ''saved'' at all - it is only a religious delusion - for you will die - in sin troy for sin kills u,
    the murderer from the beginning is abiding the right time for your demise - sin is a killer -
    why not ask some questions?

    suggestions.
    #1 - why do i continue to sin? if the saviour of the world took away my sins
    #2 - why is the law of sin and death still active in the church pews - when the Saviour ABOLISHED THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL?
    #3 - why is the church system so powerless, and why do the masses call the pew people ''those ghastly hypocrites''?

    THAT IS JUST 3 questions Troy you cannot answer and the fruit of your great harlotary = as an apostle to a Harlot.

    you see Troy Jesus is NOT in your churchwork - no - He will not worship in any counterfeit dispite the pews ignorance and blindness- infact in His opinion Troy the 'apostle' without any credentials - He thinks the church of man's rule is miserable, naked and blinded - and as for hell - lovey your it a man obsessed with his church belief.
    your not saved as in NT salvation - troy its just a great big satanic delusion as you live in a religious hoax.

    suggestion.
    why not find out THE REAL MEANING OF TRUE SALVATION?

    so allow me to press you even further Troy.
    if Jesus was your pastor, would he hold funeral services as all creeds do.

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    well i am off now churchwork - shaking your dust off my feet - perhaps one day ye shall be free - who knows you may get lucky but as it now stands your doomed......the church has murdered you - sin kills off the pews....

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