Works Based Salvation

**alive** · 03-09-2012, 02:45 PM

i would like to ask a question for the forum to really consider please.

THE christian system has been on earth for approx 2000yrs. why has it never reproduced one person in the same likeness as the Saviour in deeds or in Ministry.
consider this - If the church system was a ''product for sale'' on a supermarket shelf - it would be withdrawn from sale as a ''product that did not meet the true standard'' of the Messiah's divine ministry of healing the sick, binding up the broken hearted and raising the dead.

do you feel something is very wrong about the 'christian church' and its whole method of preaching?
could it be a hoax and counterfeit as it has NO power of divine Life abundant as per John 10 v 10.

**Churchwork** · 03-11-2012, 01:03 AM

The church problems are given in Rev. 2 & 3 exactly what has occured the past twenty centuries. We are now living in the Laodicean church period. Locality has been lost for denominationalism, but that just reflects the "differing opinions" that mark this last church period. The Tribulation is 2015-22.

Stop trying to find a secret answer or think there needs to be one. There is none. First rapture is Feast of Trumpets Sept. 14, 2015 at the start of the first trumpet according to readiness (Matt. 24.40-42, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10), and the last trumpet rapture and resurrection is at the start of the 7th trumpet then ensues 24 months before Jesus returns on Tisha B'Av Aug. 7, 2022.

**alive** · 03-11-2012, 05:02 PM

no there is NO secret answers churchwork- IT IS IN PLAIN SIGHT - the christian church system is totally flawed and fully corrupted.
that is why the church pews perish when the Gospel came to abolish death.

**Churchwork** · 03-12-2012, 12:38 AM

The Christian church system is just fine - it is called biblocality. The problem lies in those who don't practice it.

**alive** · 03-12-2012, 06:13 AM

2000yrs is a huge 'lot of time for the practice run ' churchwork.....

**Churchwork** · 03-12-2012, 03:09 PM

This is as good as it gets till Jesus returns 2022.

**alive** · 03-12-2012, 05:14 PM

no Churchwork - u are viewing the apostate counterfeit.
the Man ruled sickening system called 'christian' that exists side by side with the Ekklesia that Messiah is building.
a royal priesthood, of imperishble believers. an undying priesthood like their undying King.
the Order of Melchidezek

**Churchwork** · 03-13-2012, 03:32 AM

The Royal Priesthood is Christian. The Bible uses the term Christian, first called Christians at Antioch. Your hostility towards the Church is not Christian. The Church is according to locality and there is nothing you can do to stop that. It's God's perfect design and pearl of great price. Once you find it, you never want to let it go.

But you are not even born-again because you admit in your profile you have a salvation that is not necessarily secure once saved always saved. This shows you don't have the Holy Spirit in you, eternal life, and your spirit has not been regenerated. You're still an unregenerate and your spirit dead to God.

**alive** · 03-13-2012, 01:04 PM

ummm.
I have NO hostility towards Believers and the Ekklesia of living stones Churchwork - but i do for an apostate counterfeit posing as christian by hoaxing and robbing others in the guise of a''christian'' church but are infact peddlers of Big business Inc. and a cash cow for pimps in the pulpit.

as for being born again I have enough wisdom to notice you pose as an 'apostle' yet your forum has No posters anymore.
how strange is this for 'apostle' to run out of converts and fellowship.

as you started this forum and people fellowshipped upon it even in a small way - now they have moved on -dare i point out - NOT MUCH OF AN APOSTLE -as a man WHO has been so unloving and uncaring for his 'sheep'.

could it be you called yourself an apostle and remained unanointed and unappointed for the love need was not found in you?
ummm something for u to ponder churchwork - as it is good to see yourself as others see you.......
not a nice picture i assure you.

**Churchwork** · 03-14-2012, 03:57 AM

You're not even a Christian to have any say in the body of Christ because you are a non-OSASer. Why must a forum be active? You're just showing your hostility because you know that I know you refuse to give your life to the Jesus who keeps, for you believe you can lose salvation. Eternal life is not really necessarily eternal with you. As for Apostles they don't have to fit your box cutter profile which is too constricting and unloving. The body of Christ is flexible. What is important is the message of biblocality is preserved here by Apostles. Furthermore, how could you ever accept the Apostles if you are not even born-again? You seem jealous of us because you are not an Apostle let alone even a child of God.