re: Truth7t7 @ carm.org

Quote Originally Posted by Truth7t7
Your link leads to the teachings of "Watchman Nee" this being the "local church" these teachings of him and "witness Lee" are openly recognized as a cult!

Truth7t7
You're making several mistakes:

1) Premillennial partial rapture believers believe Matt. 24.4-31 deals with Israel as a nation, Matt. 24.32-25.30 deals with the Church, and 25.31-46 deals with the gentile nations. Notice you were unable to overturn the proof. Whereas pretribber onlyists believe these passages are mainly dealing with Israel and posttribbers mainly dealing with the Church. Partial rapture takes the middle view. There are many partial rapture believers out there though not as many pretribber or posttribber onlyists. Watchman Nee and Witness Lee disagreed with each other about the interpretation about who was first raptured. Watchman Nee said just living overcomers and martyrs the past 20 centuries, whereas Witness Lee said without discerning all overcomers even those who were asleep who were not martyred. So you can see the difference there.

2) Believing in partial rapture doesn't necessarily lead to believing in the church of Israel in the churches of Judea or the church of Dallas in the churches of Texas as is the nomenclature used in Scripture though it is true the Church is described in two ways: a) universal Church of all believers, and b) the believers of a church locality. Never does Scripture teach denominationalism or congregationalism, for it says don't say "I of Cephas" or "I of Apollos" or even "I of Christ". Many do not respect this fact of Scripture and violate God's word for their party spirit they are involved with.

3) Watchman Nee didn't believe in THE LOCAL CHURCH central organization that Witness Lee taught run by his own genetic family, but Watchman Nee believed there was no central hub just Apostles for region of Churches that do not extend beyond a region. And no popery! No murderous Protestant Pope of Geneva John Calvin. Watchman Nee understood man's flesh that the extent of the Apostles directly chosen by God were to work regionally such as the churches of Syria to appoint elders of a church locality such as the church of Antioch. Again, many have no faith to believe this because they have been deceived by the Devil in Christendom, the outward appearance of the kingdom, that includes false Christians such as Calvinists, non-OSASers, historicists and gibberish babblers, etc. (the list is long)

4) Witness Lee the Calvinist was not born-again. Watchman Nee was an OSAS Arminian, being one of the most spiritual Christians who ever lived, of course rejected Witness Lee's 6 false teachings: a) calvinism, 2) shouting mantra & gibberish babble, 3) calling oneself god, 4) suing for faith, 5) modalism, and 6) altering Nee's writings at the LSM cult.

You can get Watchman Nee's writings at CFP (Christian Fellowship Publishers, white covers only) and from CLC (Christian Literature Crusade) a total of 70 books.