Quote Originally Posted by motibi View Post
Interesting, Romans 5:19 is pretty much impossible for Calvinists to refute because they teach a limited atonement in essence; since only those whose choice God foreknew, are saved therefore the blood of Christ will only atone for a few in their view. Furthermore selfish Calvinists take the verse out of context by saying “many” is less than all. The context clearly shows that every human being was constituted a sinner by Gods will and later on will be saved by God’s will. Otherwise what is the point of emphasising “THE many” in both parts of the verse.
Calvinists don't believe "only those whose choice God foreknew." Calvinists reject this teaching of OSAS Arminians. Many is less than all. Arminians believe many is less than all. So do Calvinists. The difference is how we come to that many. If it meant all would be saved it would have said so, instead it says many. So not everyone will be saved. Most, in fact, will go to Hell. Free choice is not truly free if you don't have the choice to be eternally separated from God. You're kind of like Calvinists in that regarded. The point of emphasizing the "many" is that many will be saved, but not all.

Obadiah 1:21 calls these people “Saviours”. It is quite peculiar why they are called saviours, I mean who or what are they saving? I mean If most of creation is destined to burn for eternity how can these verses make sense
I really like that term "Saviours" as it depicts those who receive the reward of reigning with Christ during the 1000 years. It is through their authority in Christ that the regeneration of the world takes place (Matt. 19.28), where the lamb and lion lay down together in peace. Praise the Lord! You don't explain why you think this doesn't make sense.

Romans 8:20-22 “ for to vanity was the creation made subject -- not of its will, but because of Him who did subject it -- in hope, that also the creation itself shall be set free from the servitude of the corruption to the liberty of the glory of the children of God; for we have known that all the creation doth groan together, and doth travail in pain together till now”
Amen.

Actually in 1 corinthians 15:22 the word used is "zoopoiethesontai" and this is a future passive verb meaning to vivify, to make alive beyond the reach of death. The Greek word "anastasis" means resurrection and is used in verse 21 of the same chapter. We know that Jesus resurrected several people as recorded in the Gospels, but that does not mean they received unending life at that point. Even more the context is about every man being saved, since 1 corinthians 15:22-24 says “for even as in Adam all die, so also in the Christ all shall be made alive, and EACH in his proper order, a first-fruit Christ, afterwards those who are the Christ's, in his presence then -- the end, when he may deliver up the reign to God, even the Father, when he may have made useless all rule, and all authority and power”
Actually, the NLT makes this verse easier to understand: "Just as everyone dies because we all belong to Adam, everyone who belongs to Christ will be given new life" (1 Cor. 15.22). "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive" (KJV). Those "in Christ shall all be made alive." Those not in Christ will not be made alive, that is, given eternal life and the indwelling Holy Spirit.

Anyone resurrected has been given a new body. They will not die again as you suggest.

Selfish calvinists believe Christs blood will atone for a few therefore they preach a limited atonement. Others will disguise atonement by saying "potential" unlimited atonement; yet we know several haven't even so much as heard of Christ; I mean how will Adam be saved, King solomon be saved e.t.c. when there is no name under heaven but Jesus to save them? Interesting
I am ok with the phrase potential unlimited atonement. If everyone was willing then everyone would be saved. Sadly, many such as yourself, are unwilling for various reasons. In your case, not only do your rejecting the regeneration of the world where Jesus returns to reign for 1000 years (in your profile), but you also worship a false Christ who irresistibly saves like Calvinists except you believe everyone is forced into salvation like robots. That won't do at all.

Your issue was that some have not heard of Christ. That's not a problem, for God provides sufficient grace to all whether common grace or special grace through the gospel. For example, someone on a remote island rejects the idols of those worshiped by the people on the island, but he does believe in the God of the mountains and the stars, so he would accept the Lord Jesus when presented to him in the future and so would he be saved.

Adam would not be saved even if Jesus was presented before him, because he would still not eat of the tree of life under any circumstances. He went independent or "rogue" if I can use that term. Adam locked himself out of the Garden and never returned to God like Abel his son did. Just like Satan and the fallen angels will never repent. King Solomon was saved. You said "when there is no name under heaven but Jesus to save them?" Why isn't Jesus good enough for you to save them? You're weird. You have a weird faith and weird Christ you worship. All things sum up in Christ even that remote island and all the people on it. Praise the Lord!