Re: gracewl - CARM
Man has no free will? You mean you can't help an old lady across the street? Clearly you have deluded yourself in your corrupted morals to degrade yourself further in your faith. Men did not enslave themselves to sin after the fall, for where in the Bible does it say a person is guilty for being born into sin? Rather, man refuses the grace God has given, the wooing of His Spirit and the work of the cross of our Lord Jesus who is so foreign to you.Originally Posted by gracewl
You worship a god who is unable to provide sufficient grace to all and is not willing that any should perish. If Satan was pretending to be God then this is how he would be limited in being unable to provide sufficient grace to all. The believer desires to please God because He is regenerated. The reason he is regenerated is because he genuinely accepting Christ with the right attitude. The Calvinist is an unbeliever like you said, you try to please yourself in "will worship" by claiming you were irresistibly selected and did not have to repent and believe in Christ to be regenerated.
Those who are born-again in Christ are righteous in God's eyes and it took God to save man. But where does Romans 6 say anything about God not having sufficient grace and that people are saved by an evil tyrant that can only irresistibly impose salvation? Surely you jest.It takes divine intervention to repair what was broken, thereby giving us a new Master. We are born enslaved to sin! We are reborn and become slaves to righteousness. This is what Scripture teaches, and only those who IGNORE what they read can say otherwise. Read the following and come away with any other conclusion than the one I've drawn:
Romans 6:16 Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? 17 But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were committed, 18 and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness.
Alas, you are unwilling to "present yourself" to Christ to be an "obedient slave" (regenerated). Romans 6 would not included you among "slaves of unrighteousness" because you admit you are unwilling to accept the Christ to give you a new life. Instead according to your own idea you try to "will worship" yourself to be saved by assuming you were irresistibly selected. You will never succeed. You're just acting like those of other religions.
Re: PapaLandShark
Search God out with all your heart and soul, repent of all 5 points of Calvinism, and you shall surely find Him to be willing (that is: not self-willing) to accept His offer. Praise the Lord! Obviously, the reason you are have never been born-again is because you have not fulfilled this condition because you prefer to be in your natural man.Originally Posted by PapaLandShark
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