Re: Hemouth
http://www.youtube.com/user/Hemouth
Re: hardinmichael1981
http://www.youtube.com/user/hardinmichael1981
You're trying to fill a gap by committing the argument of ignorance by saying the universe always existed. Why the doublestandard? Realize if you want to mindlessly and meaninglessly invoke a universe that always existed, make sure you compare it to God who has a mind, for that which doesn't have a mind can't create a mind. What doesn't have self-consciousness can't produce that which does. What doesn't have free will, feelings and conscience can't create that which does.Originally Posted by hardinmichael1981
That's the position you are taking for nature being the explanation so you are committing the fallacy of argument from ignorance. That's not the approach Christians take. We observe the evidence and let it lead us where it may. It says nature always needs a cause with trillions of causes in nature, and no hard evidence something can come from nothing. So we realize, therefore, the universe needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, and this is whom we call God.Originally Posted by Hemouth
Remember as was explained in the video, Christians are not saying God exists because you can't disprove God. The reason you can't disprove God is because of the evidence that is so overwhelming the universe can't always have existed, since you would have happened already having had an eternity to do so AND if the universe can't come from nothing for this violates the first law of thermodynamics AND God of the Bible trumps that which doesn't have a mind, volition, feelings, conscience an self-consciousness.
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