Professor Sir Roger Penrose of Oxford University believes the universe eventually loses all its mass and time and becomes just photons which then become the starting point for another big bang. The small and big become equivalent. Our entire universe converts to energy, so all our conventional ideas of time and space disappear, yet presumably able to cause the next big bang.

Previously he was an anti-big banger. He believed it was the wrong question to ask what came before the big bang because before the big bang there would be no time, so the very notion of "before" is a false one, but he no longer believes that. Obviously, he finds fault with that idea for how can the universe just have a big bang and shut our minds down to its cause.

The problem with his first idea is that there would have been an eternity of the past of cause and effects going on, so we would have happened already, having had an eternity to do so.

What started this cycle off in the first place? You can't avoid that question if you know what is good for you. Compare the earliest point in Penrose's design to God's design who is outside of time and space, because in order to produce a mind with self-consciousness and God-consciousness, you would have to have a mind.