From: "carm.org (carmstuff@yahoo.com)" <carmstuff@yahoo.com>
Why is His work a failure by effecting salvation to anyone who wants His love and giving people the choice by what He did on the cross? This is way He wants it. Why is God humiliated because many refuse His saving grace? I can offer you love, but I am not humiliated if you reject it. If anything, you are humiliated for rejecting love.Originally Posted by CARM
God is relational, therefore to have a true relationship He can't force salvation on someone. God is fully in control. He is in control of all things. He knows all our choices. He is not sitting around. Why accuse Him and His children? (Rev. 12.10) His great plan of salvation is fully in His design.
Ephesians 2.8-10 includes the cooperation of men. Your heart is cold so it denies this. Your heart is expressing your coldness through Calvinism. You're in a cult as helper or worker at CARM. Ephesians 2.8-10 is expressing you can't plan your salvation to be saved nor can you get all emotionally passionate about it to make it happen. But this is not mutually exclusive of the of the enabling grace God has given you to have the choice. Ephesians 2 is a looking back upon our salvation for those of us who are truly regenerated. In no way does it suggest irresistible regeneration and robots.
Think of the power you usurp in assuming you were irresistibly selected. Pride is killing you! I feel ugly inside even at the thought of such self-exaltation. God wants you to have the same conscience. Pride refuses to repent and believe in Christ to be regenerated. Man is not Totally depraved, for God provides us all without exception with sufficient grace. How can God's image in which we all remain be Totally depraved? It would be accusing God Himself of His image. To have God-consciousness and then alter our core nature as being made in His image? My God doesn't allow such alteration. Even when you go to Hell you will still be made in God's image except your choice is to be eternally separated from God through Calvinism and Satan since you prefer to be with Him deep down inside.
You say God requires nothing of us, yet you of yourself assumed you were regenerated. This is doubletalk. God requires our choice; you have chosen to refuse God. God has given you sufficient grace to be able to respond, but your god hasn't. So God of the Bible trumps your god. The Bible says you may and can take of the water of life freely; you say you can't. You're lying to yourself so you don't give up control of yourself for God's control of your life.
In salvation you don't regenerate your own heart, but God does the regenerating just as you did not create yourself. He does it. The difference between the old and the new is the new requires your choice. The old was freely given to you to exist and you were born into sin, an inescapable consequence of the fall of the first Adam.
A dead man can't refuse God either, so you would not be Totally depraved. Dead means lost communication not Total inability, for always remember, God provides sufficient grace to all men as He died on the cross for the sins of the whole world and gave us the Total ability to respond to His mercy and love. Amen.
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