You Need to Be Regenerated Before You Can Be Born-Again?

[moderatecalvinism]

You said:
If God draws everyone then how can anyone be Totally depraved? It's not possible because His grace is sufficient for us all.

Define Total Depravity..

You said:"You said you agreed with the video that says atonement is limited, but if grace is sufficient for all and Jesus died for all, then atonement is unlimited."

The video says Christ made atonement for all men.. Not some as Calvinism teaches...

You said:You said you agree with the video which says God does not predestinate by foreknowing our free choice, but your profile says you agree God does predestinates by foreknowing our free-choice.

Umm, I just pressed yes to all of the questions. I did not read any of them. Frankly, a person should not have to fill those out to post in a forum.. However God does foreknow our free choice however predestination is in accordance with his foreknowledge not based on them. The scriptures never say it is predestination is based on foreknowledge. However the scriptures to say he predestines in accordance with foreknowledge.

You said:The video you gave says Total depravity does not mean Total inability, but you say it does in some of your old YouTube quotes.

That is a lie. I said we are unable to initiate salvation. We must be drawn by God we are unable to save ourselves. That is what moderate calvinism and arminianism teaches. If you deny that you are a heretic because you follow pelegians teachings.

You said:From the classical origination......

What ??? Tell me what Arminian Theologian have you studied or studied under ?

You have not studied Arminianism Calvinism nor Moderate Calvinism it is clear by your responses and lack of clarity. If I am wrong please tell me who you studied under.. How long have you been studying Arminianism ? Calvinism ? Or Moderate Calvinism ? What books have you read ? What authors do you follow ? Where do you get your information ? It is clear to me that you get your info from blogs or forums..... Study on your own... Read Jacob Arminius, John Calvin, Norman Geisler. That is the best advice I can give you. If you really desire to learn I can send you in the direction of free resources where you can read their works...

[Churchwork]

Total depravity is Total inability. That's the view of all Calvinists. If you want to change the meaning then you are Arminian. Accept it.

The video said atonement is limited and unlimited which is a contradiction.

These forums are for Apostles and Elders, so that is why the questions exist for the Apostles to establish their agreement. The questions are created by Apostles for Apostles and so the Church knows who the Apostles are. This is explained at the outset when you registered. I guess you didn't pay attention. Biblocality Forums are not your typical forums. It is to assist the highest workers for the Church as servants to the body of Christ.

You're being dishonest not answering the questions honestly. This is in violation with the registration. If you can't be honest at the outset, why should anyone here think you can be honest in other matters? You could have answered "Not sure" to the questions not having read them fully, but instead you chose to be deceitful and answered all the questions with a "Yes". It says something about you.

You said you agree God predestinates by foreknowing our free choice, but the video you said you agree with does not believe God predestinates by foreknowing our free choice. Why present a video that you don't agree with?

In your YouTube quotes you said Total depravity means Total inability. That's what you said. Now you are changing your story to agree with the video which says Total depravity does not mean Total inability. You're a liar. And your story changes with the wind in your contradictions.

Arminians don't believe what moderate Calvinists believe, for Arminians don't believe in Total depravity so your attempt to marry them is disingenuous. The Holy Spirit tells me you are just trying to be couth.

Jacob Arminius in his writings defines Arminianism. God predestinates by foreknowing our free-choice: a conditional election, unlimited atonement, resistible grace, for preservation of the saints. You really need to read Dave Hunt's, What Love is This? It is the consummate work on the subject. Some have said it is the definitive work on the Arminian Calvinism debate for the rest of this century. Dave Hunt time and again suggests Calvinists are not born-again. Who are the false Christians if not Calvinists especially moderates?

There is only one version of Arminianism, but your Calvinism has multiple versions which shows there is a problem. You guys can never agree with each other. When you contradict each other so much it might be time to denounce all things Calvinism and give your life to Christ and be saved God's way according to OSAS Arminian.

I agree with Dave Hunt that Norman Geisler is wrong in promoting Total depravity. You are not allowed to redefine the term Total depravity. I was born-again January, 2001 and it was not long after I heard the term Calvinism and some of its ideas. The Holy Spirit immediately stirred in me to realize Calvinism is demonic.

You're not a Christian, for the simple reason that you call yourself a Calvinist. Calvinists teach limited atonement, resistible grace, unconditional election, Total depravity and forced OSAS. You might even say you disagree with all these 5 points, but if you still call yourself a Calvinist in any way shape or form, it's clear you are not born-again and are just being intellectually dishonest with yourself. If I ever became a Calvinist like you, I would admit freely I was never born-again to begin with instead of rationalizing my flesh like you do.

My prayers go out to you you don't have to remain as you are.