Re: dan8486 http://www.youtube.com/user/dan8486 responding to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGWvAtxmUXA

Quote Originally Posted by dan8486
Bro...read verse 9 in Romans 8. It says this: "But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His." That doesn't sound like Paul was making a point about carnal Christians in verses 7 and 8. He's not reading into the text, he's reading the next verse in the text, something that you failed to do obviously.
James White is reading into the text his idol of Total depravity.

Verse 8 is simply looking back upon the fact I am saved. Verse 7 is simply saying if you prefer the flesh you can't please God.

A Christian can be carnal. Just because a Christian is born-again doesn't mean he can never sin.

Paul expresses this condition Christians at Corinth: "And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ" (1 Cor. 3.1).

A carnal Christian can live like the unsaved who set their mind on the flesh. If you don't realize this, you will have to fall to realize this experientially because you don't accept the reality of it.