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    "For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed" (Mal. 3.6). If God has not changed, then how could He have been a man before when He was not God? "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever" (Heb. 13.8). If Jesus is the same today, then how could he have been just preexisting intelligence? "Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning" (James 1.17) If God use to be a man, then how can He turn into God? Or, if God is God now, how could He have once been a man when He wasn't God? Know that the Father, Son and Spirit always were, are, and will be One God, never preexisted as men nor mere intelligences, and only Jesus took the form in the likeness of man entering into His creation to be our ransom.

    Since Jesus said no man has seen the Father but Jesus, know Joseph Smith is a liar when he said he saw both Jesus and the Father. He also couldn't have seen Jesus either, because He hasn't returned yet. He only appeared to one person post-ascension and that was to Paul and no other. Jesus said don't trust those people who claim "I am here or I saw him there." They are liars, deceivers and charlatans. When He appears to us, He will appear to all of us, not just Joseph Smith. Now that Smith is dead, didn't give his life to Christ and Jesus didn't return in his lifetime, the only time he is going to see Jesus is at the Great White Throne when he is judged and thrown into eternal hellfire. How sad. And yet this is where Mormons are going also for praising such a con-man.

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    LDS-Mormons really can't call themselves Christians because they don't believe what the Bible says that God is alone "from everlasting." And you try to save yourself by works, when no man can save himself or keep his salvation according to the Scriptures. Pride thinks it can do what it cannot. Examine God's word and yourself to see how immoral and unethical this is.

    6 Major Sins of LDS-Mormonism:
    1) Changing the original heartfelt intent of the words of the Bible;
    2) Only accept portions that allegedly agree with your cult leader;
    3) Claiming God use to be a man;
    4) Entering into a false salvation that can be lost tomorrow;
    5) Claiming God did not exist alone "from everlasting" (Monotheism).
    6) Joseph Smith's failed prophecies, plagiarism, continued occult practices.

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    http://trialsofascension.net/mormon/plagiarism.html

    Ethan Smith was a minister of a Congregational Church in Poultney, Vermont from 1821 to 1826 when he wrote View of the Hebrews. It was first published in 1823 (the Book of Mormon was published 6 years later in 1829). Interestingly, Oliver Cowdery, scribe, and later witness of the Book of Mormon, lived in Poultney for 22 years until 1825. Cowdery's stepmother and three of his sisters were members of Ethan Smith's congregation. No direct evidence exists that would prove or disprove Joseph Smith had read View of the Hebrews. Another book, The Wonders of Nature and Providence Displayed, was in the local Manchester Library (five miles from Joseph Smith's home) and extant records show that it was reportedly checked out during the years 1826 to 1828. This book includes a long selection from Ethan Smith's book and attempts to establish a Hebrew origin for Native Americans.
    Ethan Smith's theory of the origin of the Indian mounds was exactly the same as that which formed the heart of the Book of Mormon story:
    "Israel brought into this new continent a considerable degree of civilization; and the better part of them long laboured to maintain it. But others fell into the hunting and consequently savage state; whose barbarous hordes invaded their more civilized brethren, and eventually annihilated most of them, and all in these northern regions!" (View of the Hebrews, p. 184)
    Ethan Smith also reported the legend, said to have come from an Indian chief, that they:
    "…had not long since a book which they had for a long time preserved. But having lost the knowledge of reading it, they concluded it would be of no further use to them; and they buried it with an Indian chief." (View of the Hebrews, p. 223)
    Perhaps this is where Joseph first got the idea to "find" the golden plates. That he knew about this legend was clear, for he quoted it in his church newspaper years later as evidence of the historical accuracy of the Book of Mormon. (Times and Seasons, Nauvoo, Illinois, Vol. 3 (June 1, 1842), pp. 813-814)

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    The damning evidence of Joseph Smith:
    "God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens. That is the great secret…It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the character of God and to know…that he was once a man like us… Here, then, is eternal life - to know the only wise and true God; and you have got to learn how to be Gods yourselves…the same as all Gods have done before you…" ("King Follett Discourse," Journal of Discourses 6:3-4, also in Teachings of The Prophet Joseph Smith, pp. 342-345)
    God of the Bible never needed to "learn how to be God." Be honest with yourself, at least admit you are not a Christian for believing in this lie. Can you at least respond and admit you are not a Christian as Paul, Peter, James and John were? Be honest with me for once.

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