Stephen Hawking, Einstein and Antony Flew

[Churchwork]

gondola,

Your thinking is messed up. Since something can't come from nothing, just because you can't see what's going on in the quantum world, doesn't mean it happens all by itself. All dice thrown is just apparent, for as you know when you throw a dice it lands on a number based on the physics of how that dice rolled.

You actually think human sacrifices are better? There are evil men in all ages. That doesn't make your case. Nero was far more evil than any popular dictators today. When you start killing loved ones that is the most evil of all. Remember, you got to take this on a per capita basis. With 7 billion people on the planet, one bad guy on a per capita basis doesn't compare to the evilness of men in antiquity and their practice of human sacrifices. Humans if we lost our technology would not resort to human sacrifices; besides, we ain't going back to the stone ages. There are many measures of an exponential progression of conscience which are undeniable like the murder and crime rate per capita is measurably down through the ages. Women can vote now just this past century. There are more democracies than ever before. Polygamy and slavery are outlawed. Deaths due to war have dropped significantly. Wars in antiquity when they occurred wiped out half the population. Not so in wars today. And many more examples can be given.

The universe does need a beginning, I agree, but that points to the uncreated since the universe can't always have existed nor start up all by itself. So find out who or what He is. It is illogical to ask what created the uncreated. It is uncreated. That which is uncreated has no cause to it. You can take this on faith because it is proven. Your blind faith slips away into the realm of nonsense.

With regard to Hinduism, there can only be one uncreated Creator which they call Brahma, so to claim their gods came in human form is fanciful, because there is only one God. You can't have multiple uncreated Creators, otherwise, you have to ask the question where do these others come from? We only have evidence for one uncreated. Let us simply abide in the evidence. The gods, therefore, of Hinduism, which last I heard there are 330 million are actually evil spirits, because Hinduism is false. Hinduism is false because reincarnation is false and an amoral God is illogical since we are moral beings. How can that which is amoral create that which is moral? How can the lesser create the greater? How can God's standards be less than ours? Reincarnation is a lie, because it says you can come back as a chicken, but chickens don't have God-consciousness, so how can a chicken improve himself to become human again? That's silly. You get this one life now to decide if you want to spend eternity with God or be eternally separated in Hell. Your choice.

The reason for no reincarnation in large part is because God is not a cruel God. It would be cruel to those who love Him to always have to come up against the reincarnated who keep imprinting their evil on society, because they realize it doesn't matter, since they always get another chance. God is righteous, holy and true.

I should also add if you got stories of ethereal beings coming in human form in Hinduism then prove it, multiply corroborate it, rather than just assuming it. Care about proof and evidence.

Your account was removed because you claim in your profile you believe in the Trinity, but here you are argue for God not existing?

[Churchwork]

"In the hot big bang model described above, there was not enough time in the early universe for heat to have flowed from one region to another. This means that the initial state of the universe would have to have had exactly the same temperature everywhere in order to account for the fact that the microwave back-ground has the same temperature in every direction we look. The initial rate of expansion also would have had to be chosen very precisely for the rate of expansion still to be so close to the critical rate needed to avoid recollapse. This means that the initial state of the universe must have been very carefully chosen indeed if the hot big bang model was correct right back to the beginning of time. It would be very difficult to explain why the universe should have begun in just this way, except as the act of a God who intended to create beings like us." Stephen Hawking, A Brief History of Time, p. 127.