The Pope is Going to Hell

**Churchwork** · 02-04-2011, 04:44 PM

It is not by my authority as an Apostle that I say all the Popes are going to Hell, but by the word of God, since the Pope is the leader of the great harlot (Rev. 17) that makes drunk the nations with the wine of the wrath of her fornications (14.8). God told me all the Popes are going to Hell since there is no Popes in God's word and because, obviously, the Pope has refused to give his life to the God who keeps, for those who are born-again "they shall never perish" (John 10.28). The Pope wants to be saved by works, since he claims a Roman Catholic can lose salvation and still go to Hell. No man is saved by works, lest anyone should boast. That would be a weird kind of salvation if you could get saved, lose it, get it back, to lose it again. God simply won't save you to begin with.

OrthodoxChristian · 02-05-2011, 05:05 PM

The Pope wants to be saved by works, since he claims a Roman Catholic can lose salvation and still go to Hell. No man is saved by works, lest anyone should boast. That would be a weird kind of salvation if you could get saved, lose it, get it back, to lose it again. God simply won't save you to begin with.

That's all fine and dandy but the Catholics don't believe in salvation by works. Nor do the Orthodox. Both churches believe in having an active faith. Ie, you don't just get dunked under water, say a prayer, and BOOM, you're saved so you can go and live your life however you want.

**Churchwork** · 02-05-2011, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by OrthodoxChristian

That's all fine and dandy but the Catholics don't believe in salvation by works. Nor do the Orthodox. Both churches believe in having an active faith. Ie, you don't just get dunked under water, say a prayer, and BOOM, you're saved so you can go and live your life however you want.

Catholics don't realize that they do believe in salvation by works or self-strength since they claim they can keep themselves saved, since they claim they can lose salvation. Whereas someone who is actually a Christian can't lose salvation even if he is faithless; for God is faithful even when we are faithless. God will restore his faith, renew it, and strengthen it based on the initial relationship promise. He will never turn His back on a person who is born-again. God promises to keep those who genuinely enter into a relationship with Him and not accept Satan's counterfeit.

If you claim to have gotten saved then go on a murder and rape spree, then clearly you were never born-again to begin with. You received Satan's counterfeit.

There are consequences for Christians even though we can't lose eternal life. A carnal Christian will not be raptured at the first rapture "before the throne" (Rev. 7.9) before the Tribulation starts, but must pass through the time of testing. Nor will a carnal or fleshly Christian get to return with Christ to reign over the nations during the 1000 years on earth (Rev. 2.26, 20.4; Jude 14,15). That's a long time to be in "outer darkness" outside the light of reward of reigning with Christ for 1000 years. After the 1000 years rewards are done away with in the New City and New Earth.

**AlertStatusRed** · 07-11-2011, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by Churchwork

Catholics don't realize that they do believe in salvation by works or self-strength since they claim they can keep themselves saved, since they claim they can lose salvation. Whereas someone who is actually a Christian can't lose salvation even if he is faithless; for God is faithful even when we are faithless. God will restore his faith, renew it, and strengthen it based on the initial relationship promise. He will never turn His back on a person who is born-again. God promises to keep those who genuinely enter into a relationship with Him and not accept Satan's counterfeit.

If you claim to have gotten saved then go on a murder and rape spree, then clearly you were never born-again to begin with. You received Satan's counterfeit.

There are consequences for Christians even though we can't lose eternal life. A carnal Christian will not be raptured at the first rapture "before the throne" (Rev. 7.9) before the Tribulation starts, but must pass through the time of testing. Nor will a carnal or fleshly Christian get to return with Christ to reign over the nations during the 1000 years on earth (Rev. 2.26, 20.4; Jude 14,15). That's a long time to be in "outer darkness" outside the light of reward of reigning with Christ for 1000 years. After the 1000 years rewards are done away with in the New City and New Earth.

We can lose salvation by leaving Jesus (Hebrews 10:28-29, 2 Peter 2:22). Our free will is related to our salvation when we are saved and during this period. Not only when we choose Christ. Likewise, There is no such thing as the Rapture, this is Man-Made theology which has no place in the Christian life. Furthermore, if you were prepared to understand the Scriptures, you would see that Kephas is the Kephas which Christ built his Church upon. To translate, Peter is the Rock which Christ built his Church upon. To ignore this in Scripture, and to ignore the many Christians who have spoken of this and who believed it (St. Augustine, etc.) is to support your own man-made doctrines. This is the bad fruit of Schism. You follow the way of Korah (Jude 11). As Christians, we are to remain in the Lord's Kindness. You are correct when you say that it is our response to God (in your previous posts and messages on websites) however, this is not a one time event. Our salvation is either accepted or rejected by us through our actions. However, the source of our salvation is not from within us, but from Christ and his Sacrifice. Please do not spread any more heresy, it is rather tiring to refute these simple matters. The Pope is going to Heaven, providing he is in a State of Grace. Which I have no doubt that he is. Peace be with you.

**Churchwork** · 07-11-2011, 01:17 AM

Heb. 10.28 For anyone who refused to obey the law of Moses was put to death without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 Just think how much worse the punishment will be for those who have trampled on the Son of God, and have treated the blood of the covenant, which made us holy, as if it were common and unholy, and have insulted and disdained the Holy Spirit who brings God’s mercy to us.

When I read this verse it tells me the person was never saved to begin with, for what Christian would do this?

2 Pet. 2.21 It would be better if they had never known the way to righteousness than to know it and then reject the command they were given to live a holy life. 22 They prove the truth of this proverb: “A dog returns to its vomit.” And another says, “A washed pig returns to the mud.”

This verse tells me this person came up to the door of salvation but did not enter in. Again, he was never saved to begin with.

Our salvation is such that we give our lives to the God who keeps, for we can't keep ourselves saved, so God keeps His promise and keeps us saved. This is the Christ we gave our lives to. Those who are born-again, therefore, "they shall never perish" (John 10.28). When God gives eternal life it is eternal. Once-saved-always-saved.

People want a selfish salvation where they can get saved and lose it tomorrow if they wish. God will not save you selfishly. You will have to genuinely give your life to Him, otherwise, you will die in your sins.

If there is no rapture, then how do the saints meet the Lord in the air or come "before the throne" (Rev. 7.9) in 3rd heaven? The only way is by being raptured.

The rock which the Church is built on is not Peter but the Rock Christ Jesus: not the little Peter stone, but the large corner stone which is Jesus.

The Holy Spirit told me Augustine was never born-again. He was an amillennial Calvinist so he worshiped a false Christ. He claims he was irresistibly selected. God never irresistibly imposes regeneration on anyone but gives us the choice. God is big enough to be do that.

As many Christians have said that would be a strange kind of salvation if you could be born-again, lose it, get born-again again, lose it again, and then get born-again again again. God is no fool! He is no reincarnationist. He simply won't save you the first time. Not until you are willing to come to the cross as a helpless sinner and receive the Lord Jesus as Savior to KEEP YOU, only then will He regenerate you and KEEP YOU so that you will never perish. Only then! Not before! God looks through eternity and foreknows your free-choice whether you genuinely receive Him or not. Just as you can only be physically born once, you can only be born-again once. Once you remain physically born once, you remain physically born forever (you will get a physical body at resurrection); likewise, when you are spiritually born once, you remain spiritually born forever. Amen!

The Pope will never give his life to Christ. He is going to Hell. I am not aware of anyone that old who ended up giving their lives to Christ.

**AlertStatusRed** · 07-11-2011, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by Churchwork

When I read this verse it tells me the person was never saved to begin with, for what Christian would do this?

2 Pet. 2.21 It would be better if they had never known the way to righteousness than to know it and then reject the command they were given to live a holy life. 22 They prove the truth of this proverb: “A dog returns to its vomit.” And another says, “A washed pig returns to the mud.”

This verse tells me this person came up to the door of salvation but did not enter in. Again, he was never saved to begin with.

Our salvation is such that we give our lives to the God who keeps, for we can't keep ourselves saved, so God keeps His promise and keeps us saved. This is the Christ we gave our lives to. Those who are born-again, therefore, "they shall never perish" (John 10.28). When God gives eternal life it is eternal. Once-saved-always-saved.

People want a selfish salvation where they can get saved and lose it tomorrow if they wish. God will not save you selfishly. You will have to genuinely give your life to Him, otherwise, you will die in your sins.

If there is no rapture, then how do the saints meet the Lord in the air or come "before the throne" (Rev. 7.9) in 3rd heaven? The only way is by being raptured.

The rock which the Church is built on is not Peter but the Rock Christ Jesus: not the little Peter stone, but the large corner stone which is Jesus.

The Holy Spirit told me Augustine was never born-again. He was an amillennial Calvinist so he worshiped a false Christ. He claims he was irresistibly selected. God never irresistibly imposes regeneration on anyone but gives us the choice. God is big enough to be do that.

As many Christians have said that would be a strange kind of salvation if you could be born-again, lose it, get born-again again, lose it again, and then get born-again again again. God is no fool! He is no reincarnationist. He simply won't save you the first time. Not until you are willing to come to the cross as a helpless sinner and receive the Lord Jesus as Savior to KEEP YOU, only then will He regenerate you and KEEP YOU so that you will never perish. Only then! Not before! God looks through eternity and foreknows your free-choice whether you genuinely receive Him or not. Just as you can only be physically born once, you can only be born-again once. Once you remain physically born once, you remain physically born forever (you will get a physical body at resurrection); likewise, when you are spiritually born once, you remain spiritually born forever. Amen!

The Pope will never give his life to Christ. He is going to Hell. I am not aware of anyone that old who ended up giving their lives to Christ.

My friend, the Pope gave his life to Christ and confirmed this when he was ordained. Yes, I agree, you remain spiritually born, but Christ Jesus warns us not to be afraid of those who kill the body, but of the one who both destroys the Body and the Soul. Likewise, the Holy Spirit told you? My friend, you have no pedigree. You have no way to prove this. The Mormons could say that. The Jehovah's Witnesses could say that. You do not show that you have actually heard the Holy Spirit, it seems that you only claim what you cannot back up. Now, in regards to your first statement, you believe that we are saved by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8). This is true, 100%. Now look at Galatians 5:4:

⁴You are made void of Christ, you who are justified in the law: you are fallen from grace.

How can one be "fallen from grace", if they never had it to begin with? A Christian is one who is saved by grace. They have grace. However, as you can see, the Galatians lost this grace. They fell away from it, which shows that they were in it, therefore they were saved. Unless you wish to preach that Grace does not save.

Likewise, I bolded your statement becuase you highlight a misconception. If you understood greek, you would know that Petros is the Male stem. It would make sense to call Simon Petros, because he was male. To assign him Petra, the female stem, is ridiculous. Furthermore, if you remember, Jesus spoke aramaic. So, this is how it would have sounded:

You are Kepha and on this Kepha I will build my Church. Now, if you understand your Aramaic, Kepha means rock. So, You are Rock, and upon this Rock I will build my Church.

Therefore, this makes this verse extremely clear:

¹⁸And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Therefore, Peter/Petros/Kepha is the Rock which Christ built his Church, which is One, Holy, Apostolic, and Catholic.

Oh, and what's also cool is if you look at the "proof-text" you used, for supporting your unchristian doctrine, we find this:

2 Pet. 2.21 It would be better if they had never known the way to righteousness than to know it and then reject the command they were given to live a holy life. 22 They prove the truth of this proverb: “A dog returns to its vomit.” And another says, “A washed pig returns to the mud.”

If you notice, I bolded a certain phrase because it says a washed pig. The pig was washed, cleaned. Compare this with 1 Corinthians 6:11:

And such some of you were; but you are washed, but you are sanctified, but you are justified in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the Spirit of our God.

Those who are washed, who are justified, can leave Jesus and lose their justification.

**Churchwork** · 07-11-2011, 11:04 PM

Petra is a large rock. Petros is a small rock.

There is no requirement of pedigree in the Bible. The Pope is not saved because he prefers and teaches a selfish salvation where he and other Roman Catholics could lose salvation. Salvation is not by works lest anyone should boast. A person can't keep himself saved, nor can he lose salvation if he is saved. The Bible is clear those who are born-again "they shall never perish" (John 10.28). The Holy Spirit testifies in my spirit this is true in agreement with the word of God. Don't Mormons and JW's teach the same as the Roman Church that a person who is saved can potentially lose salvation? Yet this is in contradiction with John 10.28 and other such verses.

Galatians 5
1 So Christ has truly set us free. Now make sure that you stay free, and don’t get tied up again in slavery to the law.

This verse does not suggest a person can lose salvation, only that a person can backslide.

2 Listen! I, Paul, tell you this: If you are counting on circumcision to make you right with God, then Christ will be of no benefit to you. 3 I’ll say it again. If you are trying to find favor with God by being circumcised, you must obey every regulation in the whole law of Moses. 4 For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God’s grace.

The falling away from God's grace here is not a falling away all the way, for the person is still saved and "they shall never perish" (John 10.28). The falling away from God's grace here is backsliding, not losing eternal life.

5 But we who live by the Spirit eagerly wait to receive by faith the righteousness God has promised to us. 6 For when we place our faith in Christ Jesus, there is no benefit in being circumcised or being uncircumcised. What is important is faith expressing itself in love.

"We" indicates believers who have eternal life. They at times can fall back by trying to follow the law to make themselves right, but Christians know better not to do this. So place your faith in Christ Jesus and do not try to make yourself right by following the law. We who are saved have died to the law.

7 You were running the race so well. Who has held you back from following the truth? 8 It certainly isn’t God, for he is the one who called you to freedom. 9 This false teaching is like a little yeast that spreads through the whole batch of dough! 10 I am trusting the Lord to keep you from believing false teachings. God will judge that person, whoever he is, who has been confusing you.

The believer was running the race but has backslidden. Some Christians are harboring false teachings which they need to be delivered from.

"And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock [a large stone] I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it" (Matt. 16.18). Peter is not a woman nor is Jesus so the feminine usage is not applied here. But the fact that the stone is large would not be humility for the man, since Jesus is the large cornerstone. The Church at the time of Jesus was not large. It was a "little flock" (Luke 12.32).

There is One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church of the body of Christ but it is not the Roman Church. The Roman Church is the great harlot that sits on the beast of nations (Rev. 17) and makes them drunk with the wine of the wrath of her fornications (14.8) and unpunished pedophilia. The Roman Church will be nuked in the first half of the Tribulation. "The scarlet beast and his ten horns all hate the prostitute [the Roman Church]. They will strip her naked, eat her flesh, and burn her remains with fire" (Rev. 17.16). This agrees with the first four trumpets of the first half of the Tribulation. "Fire mixed with blood were thrown down on the earth" (Rev. 8.7). "A great mountain [Rome with its 7 hills] of fire was thrown into the sea" (v.8). "A great star fell from the sky, burning like a torch" (v.10). Rev. 12 to 19 give the details of the major points in Rev. 11 to 19. So the major points of Rev. 8 for the first half of the Tribulation are expounded on with more specifics in Rev. 17.

You have a doubletongue. First you call Peter the rock then you call the Church the rock, but Jesus says, "upon this rock I will build my church." The Church is not built upon a man, nor would it make much sense to say "upon this Church I will build my Church" for that is redundantly nonsensical. The gates of Hell will not prevail against Jesus, yet Peter and the Church can yet be hurt by the second death as any Christian can be if they backslide. If a believer and the Church are being carnal though we can't lose eternal life, Hell can still hurt us. Hell is used to burn off the dross of our false works. And for the unsaved it is where they live out eternity.

But against Jesus Hell will not prevail.

“They shall never perish” (John 10.28) is “they shall not forever perish” in the original (The Englishman’s Greek New Testament with Interlinear Translation) so carnal Christians can yet be hurt by the second death though they cannot lose salvation for Jesus only gives a person eternal life once to save a soul. Eternal life is never given a second or third time. How silly and nonsensical that would be.

In 2 Pet. 2.21, "For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them."

They never believed in Christ. Rather, they came close to the door of salvation, perhaps investigated the faith, but did not enter by faith. Christians are not washed pigs. How dare you say that! A washed pig returns to the mud and his vomit because the washed pig was never saved to begin with. You are making the mistaken assumption the pig was washed clean. Nowhere does the passage say this. Perhaps that's why ancient Israelites were not supposed to eat pork.

You misread 1 Cor. 6.11, "Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

The phrase, "Some of you were once like that" is to say they were once unsaved and some more brutal in their unregenerate state. But now they are cleansed children of God. Where does this passage say a person can lose salvation? Nothing about them being pigs after being saved. How absurd! The woman washed Jesus' feet. Is she unsaved because she "washed"?

Those who are washed, who are justified, can never leave Jesus, never would want to, and never lose justification, because they genuinely gave their lives to Christ to keep us (for we can't keep ourselves saved, nor lose our salvation), something you are unwilling to do in your flesh.

Realize the Roman Church is trying to control you by getting you to think if you don't remain diligent with them and giving them your money, they can declare you unsaved. They have no such power. They are themselves unsaved and the Vatican will be nuked. This should happen somewhere from 2015 to 2019. Of course, many nations will be nuked (Rev. 9.18) in the 6th and 7th trumpets from 2019 to 2022, but the Vatican will be especially destroyed in the first half of the Tribulation.

God hates religious Rome (Rev. 17) so He will allow Satan to destroy it. Only by the second half of the Tribulation will political Rome (Rev. 18) be destroyed.

**AlertStatusRed** · 07-12-2011, 12:16 AM

There is no requirement of pedigree in the Bible.

There is if you do not want to preach a false Gospel. The fact of the matter is that the Apostles ordained Bishops, and those Bishops ordained Bishops, and this has come down to the Present day with the Catholic Church. Have you ever heard of any institution that never had a passing on of authority?

The Pope is not saved because he prefers and teaches a selfish salvation where he and other Roman Catholics could lose salvation. Salvation is not by works lest anyone should boast.

Good Pope Benedict XVI actually teaches a salvatiion that is open to all, a salvation in which we are to remain in the Kindness of the Lord, lest we be cut off. (Romans 11:22).

A person can't keep himself saved, nor can he lose salvation if he is saved. The Bible is clear those who are born-again "they shall never perish" (John 10.28). The Holy Spirit testifies in my spirit this is true in agreement with the word of God. Don't Mormons and JW's teach the same as the Roman Church that a person who is saved can potentially lose salvation? Yet this is in contradiction with John 10.28 and other such verses

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Here is a link to the Council of Trent, Session 6, Canon 1. http://www.thecounciloftrent.com/ch6.htm

And here is a quotation:

CANON I.-If any one saith, that man may be justified before God by his own works, whether done through the teaching of human nature, or that of the law, without the grace of God through Jesus Christ; let him be anathema.

CANON II.-If any one saith, that the grace of God, through Jesus Christ, is given only for this, that man may be able more easily to live justly, and to merit eternal life, as if, by free will without grace, he were able to do both, though hardly indeed and with difficulty; let him be anathema. CANON III.-If any one saith, that without the prevenient inspiration of the Holy Ghost, and without his help, man can believe, hope, love, or be penitent as he ought, so as that the grace of Justification may be bestowed upon him; let him be anathema.

Right here, in Catholic teaching, I have shown you that we do not believe that we are justified through our own works separate from Grace. Do not misrepresent my faith.
Two, not just Mormons and JW's, but Many Protestant Churches, including Lutherans, the First Protestants and the source of your faith. Furthermore, yes, no outside force can take us away from the Lord if we do not want to. However, it is the dog who returns to his own vomit, it is the washed pig who returns to the mud. And it is those who do not remain in the Lord's kindess and are cut off.

Notice how you speak much, but you do not address Ephesians 2:8 and Galatians 5:4. We are saved by Grace through faith, and those who fall from grace, having once been in it, who do not repent, will be sent to Hell. This is clear as day.

You misread 1 Cor. 6.11, "Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God." The phrase, "Some of you were once like that" is to say they were once unsaved and some more brutal in their unregenerate state. But now they are cleansed children of God. Where does this passage say a person can lose salvation? Nothing about them being pigs after being saved. How absurd! The woman washed Jesus' feet. Is she unsaved because she "washed"?

Notice that the pig was washed. The point is not whether the person is a pig, but what the pig was. It was washed. It was cleaned. And being cleaned from sin, it returned to it. I'm not mentioning those who "were once like that", that's not the phrase I'm loking at. Notice that these people have been washed. Cleaned. Because they were cleaned, they were saved. And they voluntarily returned to the mud. How does the woman who washed Jesus's feet have anything to do with being cleansed of sin? She was being repentant, rinsing Jesus's feet from dust. We're not referring to that at all. I have no clue why your mind jumped to such a pointless verse.

Those who are washed, who are justified, can never leave Jesus, never would want to, and never lose justification, because they genuinely gave their lives to Christ to keep us (for we can't keep ourselves saved, nor lose our salvation), something you are unwilling to do in your flesh.

Yet we see that there was clearly people who were washed who returned to the mud, to their sins! We see that those who were saved by grace fell from it, they lost their salvation. I mean, look at this: (From scripturecatholic.com)

2 Cor. 11:2-3 – Paul writes, “I betrothed you to Christ, but I am afraid that your thoughts will be led astray from a devotion to Christ.” The Corinthians already had a sincere devotion to Christ, for Paul wrote to them earlier in the letter, “you stand firm in your faith.” (2 Cor. 1:24). They are already “saved.” But Paul warns them that they can fall away just like Eve fell away (and, remember, Eve was created without sin!) This is another verse that is devastating to the belief of “once saved, always saved.”

Col. 1:21-23 - we have now been reconciled in His body to be presented holy and blameless, provided we continue in the faith, stable and steadfast, not shifting from the hope of the gospel which we heard. Paul warns them that it is possible to turn away and lose hope in the gospel.

Realize the Roman Church is trying to control you by getting you to think if you don't remain diligent with them and giving them your money, they can declare you unsaved. They have no such power. They are themselves unsaved and the Vatican will be nuked. This should happen somewhere from 2015 to 2019. Of course, many nations will be nuked (

Rev. 9.18) in the 6th and 7th trumpets from 2019 to 2022, but the Vatican will be especially destroyed in the first half of the Tribulation.

God hates religious Rome (Rev. 17) so He will allow Satan to destroy it. Only by the second half of the Tribulation will political Rome (Rev. 18) be destroyed.

If they wanted to control me to get my money, then why were they in the red in regards to their finances?

http://www.zenit.org/article-1900?l=english
http://www.catholic.org/featured/headline.php?ID=4582

The Church teaches the truth, that if we do not abide in Christ's commands, that if we do not remain in the Kindness of the Lord, we will be cut off.
Oh, now you're date setting?! Here, let's see all of the great date setters:

Harold Camping, May 21st, 2011
Ronald Weinland, April 17th, 2008
Shelby Corbett, 2007
Arnie Stanton, 2004
Monte Kim Miller and Concerned Christians, 1999
Harold Camping, 1994
Lee Jang Rim, 1992
Colin Deal, 1988
Charles Taze Russel and the Jehovah's Witnesses: 1914, 1918, 1920, 1925, 1941, 1975, 1994
William Miller, 1843 and 1844

It is pretty clear that if all of these people are wrong, then so are you. For no man knows the day nor hour. We're not to worry about dates, but to always be prepared for the Master when he returns. I can assure you that none of these dates you have suggested will come true even by a little bit. The Vatican will remain where it belongs, and I can assure you this. I can see though, that you will not be reached by me. I shall shake the dust from my feet and continue on, and I will pray a Rosary with you in mind, so that you may come to knowledge of the Truth, our Lord Jesus Christ.

**AlertStatusRed** · 07-12-2011, 12:33 AM

Yes, Petra is a Large Rock, and Petros is a small rock.

Now, go to what Jesus and Peter and the rest of the Apostles spoke: Aramaic. Ever heard of this language?
Petros is the male version, and Petra is the female version. To say that Kepha was Petra would be like saying that Christopher was Christina. They may both be called "Chris", but one is a male equivalent and one is a female equivalent.

Now, knowing that Jesus spoke the language of the time (this is called understanding the Scriptures in context), this is how it looks:

ܐܳܦ݂ ܐܶܢܳܐ ܐܳܡܰܪ ܐ݈ܢܳܐ ܠܳܟ݂ ܕ݁ܰܐܢ݈ܬ݁ ܗ݈ܽܘ ܟ݁ܺܐܦ݂ܳܐ ܘܥܰܠ ܗܳܕ݂ܶܐ ܟ݁ܺܐܦ݂ܳܐ ܐܶܒ݂ܢܶܝܗ ܠܥܺܕ݈݁ܬ݁ܝ ܘܬ݂ܰܪܥܶܐ ܕ݁ܰܫܝܽܘܠ ܠܳܐ ܢܶܚܣܢܽܘܢܳܗ ܀
Translations

(Etheridge) Also I say unto thee, that thou art Kipha, and upon this rock will I build my church, and the gates of Sheul shall not prevail against her.

(Murdock) Also I say to thee, that thou art Cephas: and upon this rock, I will build my church: and the gates of death shall not triumph over it.
(Lamsa) I tell you also that you are a stone, and upon this stone I will build my church; and the doors of Sheol shall not shut in on it.
(KJV) And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Here's some Protestant understandings:
Donald A. Carson III
Baptist and Professor of New Testament at Trinity Evangelical Seminary
(two quotations from different works)
Although it is true that petros and petra can mean “stone” and “rock” respectively in earlier Greek, the distinction is largely confined to poetry. Moreover the underlying Aramaic is in this case unquestionable; and most probably kepha was used in both clauses (“you are kepha” and “on this kepha”), since the word was used both for a name and for a “rock”. The Peshitta (written in Syriac, a language cognate with Aramaic) makes no distinction between the words in the two clauses. The Greek makes the distinction between petros and petra simply because it is trying to preserve the pun, and in Greek the feminine petra could not very well serve as a masculine name.

John Peter LangeGerman Protestant scholar
The Saviour, no doubt, used in both clauses the Aramaic word kepha (hence the Greek Kephas applied to Simon, John i.42; comp. 1 Cor. i.12; iii.22; ix.5; Gal. ii.9), which means rock and is used both as a proper and a common noun.... The proper translation then would be: “Thou art Rock, and upon this rock”, etc.
Lange’s Commentary on the Holy Scriptures: The Gospel According to Matthew, vol. 8
(Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 1976), page 293
JPK page 19

Thou art Rock, and upon this Rock I will build my Church.
Thou art Kepha and upon this Kepha I will build my Church.
Thou art Petros and upon this Petra I will build my Church
Thou art Peter and upon this Rock I will build my Church. Peter is Petros, Kepha, Rock. He is the Rock which Jesus built his Church upon, which has survived 2000 years and will survive another 2000 years if need be, for the Gates of Hell shall never prevail against it. Amen!

**Churchwork** · 07-12-2011, 12:56 AM

Clearly, the emphasis is not on a female or male rock. It has nothing to do with male or female. We see male and female terms used all the time with no male and female emphasis. For example, the Holy Spirit has different terms applied to Him, sometimes male, sometimes female, so we should be careful just because a term is female that it is not necessarily being used in that sense. Read the context of the passage instead.

The emphasis is on the size of the rock. That's the clear emphasis. We know Jesus is the large rock and Peter is the small rock. Simple. And using your own argument you make Peter female so you contradict yourself.

Jesus was talking about Himself as the large rock: the large cornerstone. To place a man as a large rock is to self-exalt man above God. This is what the Roman Church does in the Pope. They go so far as to create Pope. He is unsaved. And they exalt man in his ability to keep himself saved or ability to lose salvation. Only God can keep a person saved and lets none of His elect perish. This is true love.

The gates of Hell can not succeed against Jesus. Against a Christian the gates of Hell can still have its effects. And the gates of Hell can hurt the Church if the Church is being carnal. A person can't lose salvation, but they can certainly fall from grace (backslide).

"He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. " (Matt. 16.15-18).

Who was being exalted? "The Christ". Recognizing this "blessed art thou." Read the paragraph altogether. It wouldn't make much sense for Jesus to be exalting Himself "the Son of the Living God" then in the same passage exalt Peter. People who misread this passage that way do so by their "flesh and blood."

You are not blessed by God because the Father has not revealed it unto thee the Rock is Jesus. Jesus said of Himself, unless you believe who I say I am, you will die in your sins and He will deny you before the Father in heaven. You worship a false Christ who teaches you that you can lose salvation tomorrow. Satan casts that doubt and presents a false salvation. Satan exalts the leader of the pedophiles of the Roman Church who do not go to jail.

The Roman Church is evil! Satanic! We are only touching a few points. There is so much more evil we could cover of the Roman Church such as priests not allowed to be married. In the Bible teachers (priests), Apostles, Elders, etc. can all be married so it is against God's will to enforce abstinence. Just realize all that the Roman Church does is to selfishly support itself unethically. Even a corporation has more integrity and acts more truthfully than the Roman Church does.

Keep your singleness of heart on Jesus not on Peter, for the gates of Hell can hurt any man but not Jesus. The Bible says call no man your father. So don't refer to church fathers, that is, this apostolic succession of the Roman Church which would thus be violating this rule. All Christians are saints and a royal priesthood. Whereas the Roman Church says only some are.

My prayer is for you to leave this evil cult of Roman Catholicism.