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    This is an important principle. God makes Himself obscure enough for you to reject Him if you want, but also clear enough to receive Him if you are willing. Being made in God's image refers to His characteristics, not skin color. How silly. So there is no contradiction that God is invisible. The Bible never presents itself other than the real people being talked about, places and time. Whereas admittedly, your PU is found in fairy tale books created by man. Your PU, you follow it alone by yourself, not well multiply attested, having no religio-historical context and certainly not well accessible. It has meaningless context. Like I said, anyone can make claims for a deity, but by comparison one prevails. You give no explain for how your PU is both pink and invisible. But the Bible fully explains itself and is well sourced and proven by resurrection. You fashion your PU after a horse as an idol you set up to reject God. Compare this to God of the Bible. You have no evidence for it like exists for God of the Bible through prophecy, miracles and the resurrection. Personally, I feel a god who is so unaccessible like your god is the evil spirit because it seems the only people that can get to your god is you and they must go through you. Plus, you contradict yourself, because you argue for the PU yet you are atheist. You change your position based on what you are arguing about. You have no ground or moral compass for it keeps shifting. Very unstable.

    1.10b-16 THE VISION OF THE GLORIOUS CHRIST
    (1) The voice heard was a great voice as of a trumpet. A trumpet is sounded to gather people together. Here the Lord was especially calling John to write to the seven churches. These seven churches actually existed at the time. They were specially chosen to serve as types of the church throughout the ages.
    (2) The sight seen was the seven golden candlesticks (or lampstands), which are the seven churches (v.20). Such are the churches in God’s view, which ought to be their spiritual reality, since the churches are to illuminate this dark world for the Lord. Yet the candlesticks themselves cannot give out light unless they are filled with oil. And hence the churches need to be filled with the Holy Spirit.
    (3) "One like unto a son of man"—The Son of man was in the midst of the candlesticks to inspect the churches (2.1). What was the likeness of this Man? He looked like a son of man, which is to imply that He was somewhat different from what He had been on earth. So the word "like" is used. As to His appearance, it was described as follows:
    (a) "Clothed with a garment down to the foot—"which signifies the Lord’s glory, the glory that He had before His incarnation (Is. 6.1). He is now being restored to His former glory. The garment not only signifies His original glory, it also indicates His priesthood; for He is now our high priest (Heb. 8.1).
    (b) "And girt about at the breasts with a golden girdle"—which attests to His righteousness and faithfulness (Is. 11.5).
    (c) "And his head and his hair were white as white wool, white as snow"—which shows how He is in possession of glory (Prov. 16.31, 20.29) and holiness (Dan. 7.9).
    (d) "And his eyes were as a flame of fire"—which fire is used for proving (1 Peter 1.7) so that whatever is good or bad may be manifested. With His eyes as a flame of fire everything will be exposed immediately by His look. The fire referred to in 1 Corinthians 3.13 is the fire of the Lord’s eyes. The meaning of 1 Corinthians 4.5 likewise agrees with what is expressed here.
    (e) "And his feet like unto burnished brass"—feet are for walking and brass in the Bible typifies judgment. Wherever the brazen feet go, there goes judgment. Since the Lord’s feet are now in the church, the Lord is presently judging His church first (1 Peter 4.17).
    (f) "And his voice as the voice of many waters"—which denotes that His voice is full of majesty and power (Ps. 29.4).
    (g) "And he had in his right hand seven stars"—which stars are the angels (or messengers) of the seven churches (v.20). Their being in the Lord’s hand means that they are being used, controlled, and protected by the Lord.
    (h) "And out of his mouth proceeded a sharp two-edged sword"—which sword is used to deal with the world as well as with the church (19.15-21, 1.16).
    (i) "And his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength"—the Lord was manifested in the same way on the mount of transfiguration (Matt. 17.2). The scene on the mount of transfiguration typifies the kingdom, because the Lord is most glorious in the kingdom.

    God manifests Himself in Christ for us to see either visions or in Person. When He returns we will see Him in Person.

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    We can take the materials to design intelligently certain things to an extent, but not all things; hence, a greater intelligence than us is needed for that fine tuning.
    All that is needed is adaptation obtained over time (i.e. Evolution).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DD2014 View Post
    All that is needed is adaptation obtained over time (i.e. Evolution).
    Evolution can't produce itself. You first need to come up with a replicating single-celled organism. The universe can't cause itself. It needs an Intelligent Designer. You are putting the cart before the horse. You also need a Savior, because man can't save himself. A person once sinned is eternally separated from God without atonement.

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