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    Christ repeatedly gave such invitations as "Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest" (Matt. 11.28), or "If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink" (John 7.37); and "whosoever will, let him take of the water of life freely" (Rev. 22.17). Calvinist will tell you this is just an illusion (it's just a charade) to free will and free will is not really free according to their secret teachings. Relying on the ordinary meaning of words, we can only conclude from Scripture that Christ is an offering to all (unlimited atonement) a gift that may be accepted or rejected (resistible grace, conditional election). By its very nature, a gift must be received by an act of the will. If forced upon the recipient, it is not a gift or love. Tragically, calvinism undermines the very foundation of salvation and man's loving, trusting relationship with God through Christ.

    Knowing this, a calvinist will still respond by saying that though God appears to be making it an unlimited atonement and resistible grace (just an illusion though), it is not, because their god still has to cause you while not causing others to take of the water of life, so it is not really free, but calvinists say it is presented as being free, even though it is not. Do you see the delusion of calvinism? They have no trust in God who can make man in His image with free will to have the choice to receive the gift: "If thou knewest the gift of God" (John 4.10); "For by grace are ye saved...it is the gift of God" (Eph. 2.8); "The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord" (Rom. 6.23); "But not as the offense, so also is the free gift" (Rom. 5.15).

    It is irreconcilable the contradiction between the calvinism god wanting to save everyone, but does not die for the sins of everyone; therefore, the honest calvinist says its god does not want to save everyone, because its Jesus does not die for everyone...but, that is evil because it is not of God to want to send people to Hell without any recourse whatsoever to receive salvation by grace through faith.

    We need to pray for the lost souls of calvinists that some may yet give their lives to Christ. Amen.

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    Remember, God offers salvation to everyone, not just some. If He only offered salvation to some or coerced anyone He would be an evil god (i.e., the god of calvinism). The teaching of calvinism is that everyone wants to go to hell, so to cause some to be saved against their will is coercion and coercion is not love. Of course that is not really freewill if everyone wants to go to hell, so don't believe a calvinist when he tells you it is.

    Christ repeatedly gave such invitations as "Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest" (Matt. 11.28), or "If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink" (John 7.37); and "whosoever will, let him take of the water of life freely" (Rev. 22.17).

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    Try to understand the obvious contradiction, which if you can't resolve indicates your unsalvation, need for repentance from the god of calvinism before you can come to God of the Bible since you are worshiping a false Christ.

    Christ repeatedly gave such invitations as "Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest" (Matt. 11.28), or "If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink" (John 7.37); and "whosoever will, let him take of the water of life freely" (Rev. 22.17).

    If nobody can receive Christ because of total depravity then why would God give this invitation if Jesus died for the sins of all men? Sounds vain and contradictory. This is one of Satan's greatest works of confusion! It must be false, therefore, that you are totally deprave. Rather, you are deprave and have limited ability, but you are not totally deprave. You have freewill.

    And it is evil the god of calvinism were to not be willing to change the hearts of some, blaming them for that which is not their fault. It is also evil to save some who reject God by their own freewill, otherwise that is coercion which is not love.

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    If a calvinist can't resolve the contradiction of Jesus dying for the sins of all mankind (with the invitation of salvation...whosoever will take of the water of life freely) and then claiming nobody chooses the cross (nor could receive such an invitation), you should definitely renounce calvinism (necessary for your repentance to no longer worship the god of calvinism) and give your life to Christ.

    Why do you doubt Jesus died for the sins of all? "The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!" (John 1.29); "we know that this is indeed the Christ, the Savior of the world" (John 4.42); "we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as Savior of the world" (1 John 4.14); "He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world" (1 John 2.2); "He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone" (Heb. 2.9); "Since we believe that Christ died for everyone, we [Christians] also believe that we have all died to the old life we used to live" (2 Cor. 5.14).

    Furthermore, observe the error in calvinism of a god who coerces some to believe in the god of calvinism against their will and not help those who also refuse salvation, yet damn them for all eternity without any means or recourse of salvation. What love is this? That is just sick and evil. We shall know such false prophets and false teachers by their fruit who worship a false Christ.

    God says to Israel, "If ye be willing and obedient...but if ye refuse and rebel..." (Is. 1.19-20). God has given man the free will to make moral and spiritual choices for which he alone bears responsibility and is to be blamed.

    The words "will," "free-will," "willing," "freewill," "free will," along with related words such as "voluntary," "choose,", etc., are found nearly 4000 times in Scripture. The requirement of willing obedience from the heart to believe in God and accept Christ is a theme that runs throughout the Bible, so obviously many can choose the cross: "If any man will do his [God's] will..." (John 7.17), "If thou believest with all thine heart" (Acts 8.37), etc. "Freewill offering" is found nine times (Lev. 22.21,23; Num. 15.3; Deut. 16.10; 23.23; Ezra 1.4; 3.5; 7.16; 8.28), and free will offerings" is found seven times (Lev. 22.18, 38; Num. 29.39; Deut. 12.6, 17; 2 Chron. 31.14; Psalm 119.108). "Willingly offered" is found five times, such as "the people willingly offered themselves" (Judges 5.2). Check this one out: "willingly offered a freewill offering unto the Lord" (Ezra 3.5).

    Wouldn't it be vain if nobody could believe after the Word of God saying so much about your free will, yet that is the very god of calvinism, for they teach total depravity?

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    Influences that convince don't make decisions. Paul said, "we persuade men..." (2 Cor. 5.11). The will still makes its own choice. That it may be influenced to some extent in no way proves that the will did not take all factors into consideration, or avoid some factors, and make its own decision.

    God's foreknowledge has no causative effect upon man's free choice. God, being timeless, sees from outside-as though they had already happened-what to us are future events. Thus His foreknowledge has no effect on man's will. There is no reason why in His omniscience God cannot know what man will freely choose to do before he chooses to do it-and have that knowledge without causing the event to occur.

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    "...we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe" (1 Tim. 4.10).

    What men are these that are saved who don't believe in the Lord? Therefore, "all men" refers to every human being who ever lived. Don't you love how powerful God's Word is to prove unlimited atonement, resistible grace, conditional election and the ability of free-will?

    Jesus is the Savior to the whole world, for salvation as a gift is offered to all men, but since most refuse salvation, they are not counted among those that believe.

    “ . . . the only thing that made it possible for God to continue to have any dealings or any relationship with this world at all was the work that our Lord was going to do. So it was the cross, as it were, that spared the world and allowed it to continue. And in the same way, it is the cross and the cross alone that spares the life of anybody who ever sins at any time. It is only because of the work of the cross that God can even tolerate sin in any shape or in any sense.”

    "For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost" (Matt. 18.11). That includes everyone, though not all receive Him.

    There are no verses in the Bible a person is saved or regenerated before believing.

    "Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved" (Acts 16.30-31).

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    If you can't choose the cross by faith then why does God say, "Choose you this day whom ye will serve" (Josh. 24.15)?

    Calvinists will have you believe that those who spend an eternity in the Lake of Fire will be there because God did not want them in heaven-this falsity is a libel upon God's character and love!

    They confuse the ability (and freedom) to will with the ability to perform (or carry out what he wills), and mistakenly imagine by disproving the latter, you can disprove the former. Paul says, "To will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not" (Rom. 7.18). Man is free to believe the gospel and to receive Christ, which requires no special ability to perform on his part. Where is it said man has to save himself by performing salvation? Where is it said that man can perform nothing at, nor even use his free will?

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