Barack Hussein Obama and King William V

[Nottheworld]

Barack is conflicted. If he is a Christian and his most important advice he takes from is his wife who is a Muslim, how does he balance the fact that as Muslim, his wife is going to Hell, and as a Muslim, she believes Barack is going to Hell? It just sounds twisted to me. What makes more sense to me is Barack is in fact a secret Muslim, because he use to say once upon a time that he was a Muslim, but in government that doesn't fly well, so he changed his tune for the sake of appearances. Doesn't Islam want to destroy United States from within? If Barack gets elected, the American people have nobody to blame but themselves for electing him and experiencing what comes next under his presidency. God help us all. The fact that Obama is leading in the polls tells me that the American public are such a fallen people, their hearts have turned so far away from God that they would elect Obama.

[Churchwork]

Barack mocks the Bible,
http://www.phforamerica.com/

Barack said Leviticus is wrong for slavery, Deuteronomy was wrong for stoning and Matthew is wrong for the Sermon on the Mount which were Jesus' own words.

What is the truth of his mistaken assumptions? God was against the enslavement of Israel for 430 years. Stoning was part of the old covenant matching the extreme sinfulness of people. And whether Barack likes it or not the events on the Sermon on the Mount have happened in part already, still going on and disclose the specific events in the coming Tribulation.

There is nothing Barack can do about it in going against God's Word, but we should still try to stop terrorism.

[tomvale13]

Jesus actually condemns those who condemn others and told us NOT TO JUDGE OTHERS (Matt 7:1 – 5).

Also, whats with the hate in here? Sure seems like fanatic racism.

I thought Christianity was about positive things.

Proof that Obama is a muslim please?

Proof that his tax plans did not involve TAXING the wealthy and giving the lower and middle class the tax breaks?

- Endeavouring to level the playing field, for sane people everywhere not wanting to be subjected to this toxic vitriol.

[Churchwork]

Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured unto you. Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Mat 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me cast out the mote out of thine eye; and lo, the beam is in thine own eye? Mat 7:5 Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

As the Bible says, you shall be judged for that which you judge by and shall be measured unto you. Whereas Christians are not judged because we don't have your same problem. The Bible is totally against sinning bearing false witness, so you accuse of hate when the truth was told. You are only projecting your own hatred and your own fanatic racism. Who are you being racist for? How is this positive of you reflecting your own faith in atheism, calling Jesus and God a liar? The proof Obama is not a Christian was already given which you couldn't find fault with in that video. Furthermore, it is an intelligent guess he is still a Muslim as he once was and gives us the clue, he said the most important advice he receives is from a Muslim. Whatever kind of tax breaks he gives to get elected doesn't nullify these problems he possesses in his hostility to the Bible, specifically, Leviticus, Deuteronomy and Matthew he mentions. Such behavior is not sane, nor is it a level playing field of people being honest with one another about their actual faith is and his vitriol to God's Word. With the debt/gdp at 400% in United States even higher than 260% during the 1930's depression, is it really wise to be giving everyone tax breaks with money the government doesn't have? That will destroy the currency and not honestly pay back what was borrowed.

[tomvale13]

You are only projecting your own hatred and your own fanatic racism.

Furthermore, it is an intelligent guess he is still a Muslim

Furthermore, this forum astounds me - the world needs to be made aware of your backwards thinking.

This is my ONLY problem with religion, people like you.

Enjoy wasting your entire life, I'll be enjoying mine.

[Churchwork]

Backward thinking is atheism (in your profile), since nothing in nature happens all by itself, therefore the universe can't cause itself. How absurd! Muslims say Jesus didn't die on the cross. That's a lie without any evidence to support their claim six centuries later. The desire of Islam is to wipe off the face of the earth Israel since this is the first nation God revealed Himself to. Islam wants to rule the planet. Can't you see this is just their way of rejecting God in Christ? Aren't you being backward by clinging to unsubstantiated claims? Did Jesus waste His life? Of course not. You are wasting your life lost in the world, remaining unsaved, and bound for Hell. There is no greater waste than this. Just realize that there is no greater joy in serving the Lord whatever He has apportioned for us. Can you be so selfless to accept what Jesus did for you on the cross? There is no real joy in clinging to your self-life. The reason why people like you don't like people like us is because you are antichrist, going to Hell. That is all. As Jesus said, as He was treated so we who are in Him will be. Please let people know about the forward thinking here as we are in the Laodicean last church period of "differing opinions" and we hold here to the 5 deeper truths of Christianity.

[tomvale13]

So Christians can 'intelligently guess' while for the rest of us it's 'lying'?

good work.

I guess you'd call your stance on physics 'Intelligently Ignoring' all the evidence and findings.

Stop thinking you're better than everyone else due to your beliefs, please try and be open minded.

I have many religous friends who decry the behaviour I am seeing here, these people are all kind, loving souls who do not share your allegiance with outright stupour.

I'm going to purely observe from this point because, as it is true with stupid people is true with yourself,

I cannot argue with the blindly ignorant - you'll drag me down to your level and beat me with experience.

Please revoke my posting access and consider removing read only access for guests as it will do your faiths image no good to have this forum readily accessible to other cynics.

[Churchwork]

Barack put down the Bible. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize he is not a Christian, and that he is a liar when he said he is a Christian. And he reiterates the best advice he takes is from a Muslim. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.

Christians don't say we are better than everyone else, why bear false witness? But we do know we were chosen by God before the foundations of the world and are not in your position, unsaved and going to hell for calling Jesus a liar. We have accepted the atoning sacrifice paid.

I don't know any Christians that disagree with what I have said to you, so just because someone is religious does not mean they are saved. They still have to accept the ransom paid for their sins. The problem is you may not realize you are sinner, which is delusional to say the least.

Aren't you being ignorant by calling Jesus a liar when you have no evidence for your claim? Or claiming the universe happened all by itself? Why shut your mind down? I encourage you to not shut your mind down anymore. That's just being ignorant.

The burden of the proof is on you to show something in the universe can happen all by itself among trillions of causes and effects. And the burden of the proof is on you to show Jesus was not resurrected with the multiple eyewitness accounts.

As you requested, since you will never post again, there is no need to be a member, so I removed your account.

Guest posting is pointless, since I don't want to waste my time catering to belligerency. If you are genuine, you will register, answer the questions at registration, and seek after the truth with a genuine heart. So far you have not done that because you don't deal with the problem cited about atheism and rejecting the resurrection of Christ.

[everstill]

Watch The Obama Deception,



Don't be fooled by show biz. Military+Bankers, often lobbyists, are the only 2 groups on Obama's team. Obama doesn't want to die like Kennedy, so he will do what they want. He is the maximum puppet you can get. He knows not what he does, but he sure can talk to sell The New World Order to the world out of the depression and war.

The Trilateral Commission will seize control of the United States: political, monetary, intellectual, ecclesiastical. The Bilderberg Group meets once a year and makes up the 125 richest people (you need to be a billionaire) on the planet with the objective to create a world power greater than the nations or states involved. In actuality, there is only one person who is the head of the Bilderberg group and that is the Antichrist who will be made known in the Tribulation by his 7 year peace treaty between Israel and Islam. The Bilderberg issues executive orders and prime directives to the Trilateral Commission. Why do you need a Trilateral Commission? Is that suppose to copy the Trinity?

The Council of Foreign Relations serves as the United States arm of the Trilateral Commission. The system is a polycentric oligarch run by bankers which set up institutions such as Royal Institute for International Affairs, Chatham House and Milner Round table after the Boer Wars.

What stays the same is the ruling elite that give the puppet presidents their orders to act on. What the Antichrist and his Bilderberg Group are doing is continuing to act out their fantasies of world domination through the former powerful nation state of United States and ecclesiastics as a front with the Roman Church. Their ideas are bankrupt and will lead to the collapse of civilization as they try to hold onto their capital structures and system of looting. This can't succeed. Thus comes the Tribulation.

This is not about just rich people verses poor people, for God likes diversity, but 125 of the biggest criminals on the planet through manipulation. It is a freight train that can't be stopped. Derivatives are the center piece of this.

Timothy Geithner, Secretary of Treasury, is a Bilderberg and Trilateral Commission member. He is in charge of the private company, the Federal Reserve.

Hillary Clinton, Secretary of State, is a member of the Bilderberg group (BG) and the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR) and is married to the Trilateral Commission (TC) member, William Jefferson Clinton.

Ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice is a Trilateral Commission member.

National Security Adviser Gen. Games L. Jones is a BG, TC, CFR, member.

Deputy National Security Adviser, Thomas Donilon, is a CFR member.

State Department Special Envoy, Henry Kissinger, is a BG, TC, CFR member, who gave Obama his first job.

Chairman, Economic Recovery Committee, Paul Volker, is a BG, TC, CFR member.

Directory of National Intelligence, Admiral Dennis C. Blair is a BG, TC, CFR member.

Secretary of State, Robert Gates, is a BG, TC, CFR member.

Deputy of State, James Steinberg, is a BG, TC, CFR member.

State Department Special Envoy, is a BG, TC member and President of the CFR.

Presidential Adviser, Alan Greenspan, is a BG, TC, CFR member.

State Department Special Envoy, Richard C. Hoolbroke is a BG, TC, CFR member.

Barack was groomed and prepared for the elite to carry out their agenda. Presidents come and go for the shadow government. Obama looks like a nice tree, well groomed and does good work with breezes, but a tree is measured by its fruit. Obama said he would get out of Iraq. He is a liar. Speaking the truth is proper fruit and being "not doubletongued" (1 Tim. 3.8). He lies to you to get elected. He turned around and accepted wire taping and the Patriot Act. He was against NAFTA, now he is for it. Stop changing your mind Obama, you're worse than John Kerry the flip flopper!

A truly evil man is one who says one thing, does the other, and does it so many times, that you think it is acceptable behavior. He closed Guantanamo Bay but kept open the provision to do the same thing in other countries, such as secret prisons and detention without trial and various kinds of torture. He said he wouldn't hire lobbyists but he did.

He imposed caps for executives of companies that received bailouts then said except for banks. Over 12 trillion has been stolen for the bankers.

How was the Federal Reserve created in 1913? With a majority of vote of 2 people to 1 in Congress. That's right. Only 3 individuals were present! What needs to be done to solve this problem? The US Treasury is suppose to control the Federal Reserve, not very rich individuals and their banking cartel. Printing money is a government responsibility, not a private corporation's responsibility.

Greenspan says the Federal Reserve is beyond the law. It's relationship to the people or any department of government or the President is irrelevant. The Federal Reserve never gets audited.

The IMF-International Monetary Fund-is the foreign arm of the Bilderbergs.

Obama is our peacemaker with his million man secret force.

If you are on the no fly which is growing to several million people, you are not allowed to own a gun.

The colossal ponzi schemes are the result of too loose a regulation, deregulation such as the Glass Stegal Act in 1990's. Lending to 3rd world countries at 30% interest rates gave the banking cartel right to own the taxation power of those countries which defaulted; there was no way they could pay that onerous rate. The Bilderbergs own most of the S&P500.

A One World Bank is formed to create a hundred new taxes from carbon taxes to how many miles you put on your car which all flows bank to this bank.

The Obama fad will wear off and when it does he needs a powerful police state to control rioting. The Obama nation is distracted and gullible, kids in elementary and junior high school, while the Oligarchy builds their police state, take arms away and set up detention camps.

40 million people in the Soviet Union were exterminated from 1925 to 1945 under Stalin because they did think for themselves, they had their own businesses and because some were Christians in that atheist nation.

Hitler was so appealing to people early on and why he came to power, giving people great hope. He did many good things. Then he exterminated millions of people within 10 years under a dictatorial situation.

Maoist China exterminated 60 million people.

Now you can't be so blatantly and obviously evil as this in the future I am sure, but the future world dictatorship will do something as the Oligarchy positions itself center around oil and impose its carbon taxation to increase its inflow of funds and wealth.

[everstill]

"And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven" (Luke 10.18). “How art thou fallen from heaven, O day-star, son of the morning!” (Is. 14.12)

The Hebrew word for "lightening" in Strong's (H1300) = Baraq or Barak.

"I will ascend [G5927 ALAH] above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High" (Is. 14.14).

"above the heights" is H1116 = bamah, which means high place. Adding "o" in front is a conjunction in Hebrew.

Hussein means "beautiful". Lucifer is the most beautiful angel: "Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light" (2 Cor. 11.14). "Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty" (Ez. 28.12). Verse 17 states explicitly the cause of Satan’s fall: “Thy heart was lifted up because of thy beauty; thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness.”

“Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out” (John 12.31). Satan is successful everywhere in ordering things in the world except when it comes to the cross and the coming judgment of the Antichrist Barack (6) Hussein (7) Obama (5) printing more money than any nation has ever done before for the Federal Reserve under Ben Bernake and the eventual one world government.

Luke 10.18 is referring to: “I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit” (Rev. 9.1). Satan will open up the bottomless pit to release the first beast, Antichrist, which is Satan incarnate Barack Obama. You might find this hard to believe, but the second beast, the False Prophet, will be Oprah Winfrey.

Satan will be thrown back into the pit for the 1000 years: “And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season...And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison. And shall go out to deceive the nations...” (Rev. 20.1-3,7-8).

After the 1000 years, Satan will be thrown into Hell where the Antichrist and False Prophet already will be from the start of the 1000 years. “And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever (20.10). Barack Hussein Obama and Oprah Winfrey will be the first two people in Hell before the 1000 years starts.