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What God is showing you personally is that if you create a law for yourself, whatever that may be, such as to do no work on Saturday's, if you break it even once, let it prove you are a sinner, among other ways to show you are a sinner in need of salvation.
So you're saying is that if I believe there is no such thing as law, that I'm not a sinner, as long as I continue to believe there is no such thing as law? That sounds like subjective depravity to me. "I'm condemned only if I think I am." That is not at all scriptural.

Salvation is not going to be received if you try to keep the Sabbath, thus rejecting Christ for the Sabbath points to the rest of the Holy Spirit indwelling.
I am quite unaware that it was a sin to obey God. Just because the Sabbath points to the rest we will have at the End of the Age, doesn't mean the Sabbath is over and done with in this Age, especially when I have the Spirit. If you think it's a sin to keep the Sabbath, then you have seriously twisted the Word of God around to no effect. What is to prevent you from nullifying the rest of the Word of God?

Think about the consequences of what you believe concerning this matter:

If God gave the Sabbath for only a certain amount of time on earth (even though he says it's a commandment for all generations), and he comes one day and nullifies it and even makes it a sin to do it (risking your eternal life); then pray tell, what is to prevent one from concluding that your dearly-held "eternal Sabbath that you have now" won't be nullified at some later point in the future too, and declared just as wrong?!

By throwing out the Sabbath which is a type and shadow of the rest we have in Christ, then according to type-reality application you then also must throw out the "eternal rest" you think we now have and will have at the End of the Age! Talk about pulling the rug out from underneath your hope. When you advocate that the types in this Age have an end in this Age, then you advocate that the realities of the next Eternal Age will have an end at some point in the Eternal Age. Elsewise your hermeneutic is inconsistent. You can't have your cake and eat it too. You can't reject the commandment to keep the Sabbath, and enjoy your Sabbath rest too!


What does Paul teach concerning the Sabbath? He maintains that the Sabbath is a thing that has passed away: “having blotted out the bond written in ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us: and he hath taken it out of the way, nailing it to the cross . . .


Paul is not at all saying here that the Sabbath has passed away! You are adding words to the scripture that aren't even there. Ask yourself the simple question: what was blotted out? What does the text tell you? The bond or the ordinances or both? Hint: "having blotted out the bond written in ordinances" Isn't this what I've been saying? What was nailed to the cross was the curse of the law, the bond (debt), not the law itself (or else our redemption has no current value, and most importantly: Christ's death would not have worked to pay the debt since the debt of sin would still remain in Death's charge account, but the law that allows for substitutionary payment would be gone with which to legally pay it on behalf of others).
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a feast day or a new moon or a sabbath day: which are a shadow of the things to come; but the body is Christ’s” (Col. 2.14,16-17).
Thank God for Paul's encouraging words. I will not let you judge me in meat, or drink, or respect of a feast day, or new moon, or sabbath day, which are most certainly a shadow of "things TO COME" and not yet realized.