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    It has already been demonstrated above and you could not show otherwise. More detail today does not change that fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchwork View Post
    From the fall in Gen. 3, we find in Romans 8, "All creation anticipates the day when it will join God's children in glorious freedom from death and decay" (v.21).

    The entropy law is the 2nd law of thermodynamics. History really starts in the Garden of Eden.
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    The decay spoken of is entropy of the creation, the closed system of the universe, for outside it is the uncreated always existing God.
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    Not at all. It's the same.
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    Paul is also talking of the uniformity of a system. They are the same. The sun does not change this fact.
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    It has already been demonstrated above and you could not show otherwise. More detail today does not change that fact.
    On the contrary, throughout this thread you have only ever asserted your claim, rather than demonstrate it.

    Unless, of course, "It's the same" counts as a demonstration in your parts.

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    Actually it was demonstrated, since entropy involves decay, not non-decay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchwork View Post
    Actually it was demonstrated, since entropy involves decay, not non-decay.
    *sigh*
    You have mere asserted that what Paul refers to by 'decay' is the same as what the entropic physicist refers to by 'decay'. You have demonstrate no such equality, and indeed no such equality exists: Paul is referring to a rise in societal immorality, not a cessation of a statistical law.

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    Entropy does claim an end to statistical law. Paul is not talking about th a rise in societal immorality, but that all things decay, which is not the same thing as mentioning the exponential progression of conscience. Physically things decay, but that does not decay the exponential progression of conscience we observe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchwork View Post
    Entropy does claim an end to statistical law.
    Entropy is simply a measure of uniformity. It doesn't claim anything.

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    Paul is not talking about th a rise in societal immorality,
    How do you know?

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    but that all things decay,
    Perhaps, but that doesn't tell us what he means by 'decay', be it moralistic or physical.

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    The dissipation of entropy however uniform is the decay Paul is referring to. There is none other.

    Since Paul is referring to all things returning to dust, morality is not pointed out, but the decay of the physical body. Resurrection is a new body directly given by God. Resurrection is not a resurrection of morality, but our very being. For example, Christians have resurrection life already so that when resurrection comes at the last trumpet, we don't all of a sudden become morally enhanced. Not at all.

    Try to understand that when you read the Bible without the Holy Spirit you do so with a darkened mind and unregenerated spirit that is without God's life, so you always read it wrongly. You can say you read the Bible with a hostility in your heart to read it as not originally intended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchwork View Post
    The dissipation of entropy however uniform is the decay Paul is referring to.
    What makes you think this?

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    Dust returns to dust. What would make you think otherwise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchwork View Post
    Dust returns to dust. What would make you think otherwise?
    You didn't answer my question. What makes you think Paul is referring to entropy?

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