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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchwork View Post
    You're still making the same mistake.
    The mistakes are all yours and those like you!

    You are a sore loser whose entire capacity is to silence me by using illegitimate and fabricated penalties and bans (temporary so far whilst you recouperate from your losses to try again) simply because
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    1. You are a sinner and hence a fraudulent Story book jesus' believer

    2. Your legitimate evidence for your claims is wanting hence silencing me dishonestly is your only disgraceful alternative!

    3. The beam in your eye isn't quite as large as your arrogance and religious ineptitude!


    Quote Originally Posted by Churchwork View Post
    When Israel is doing evil God punishes.
    That's because Story book god is the Adversary(Satan) responsible for the creation of ALL evil!

    For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: (Col. 1:16) KJV Story book

    And Satan (i.e. Story book god the creator of ALL evil) stood up against Israel, , , , (1 Chron. 21: 1) KJV story book

    Later in story book 1 Chron. 21 we read: -


    And God was displeased with this thing; therefore he smote Israel.

    Thus Satan (god) smote Israel!


    You are a sore loser!

    Perhaps some one else can jump in and try to do much much much much better than Churchwork and his predecessors?

    Quote Originally Posted by Churchwork View Post
    When Israel is doing God's will they are rewarded.
    ALL god(s) are human inventions and the combined legitimate evidence otherwise remains a constant zero!
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    Pretty simple. Satan wants Israel to do evil not good.
    Again your claims are proven incorrect!

    The Story book christian alleged Satan is often a goody -

    Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme. (1 Tim. 1:20) KJV Story book

    What a foolish, self contradictory 'satan being' many have invented for themselves.

    If for any purpose this claim were true. All that would be achieved would be to expose its foolishness, inconsistency and self contradiction.
    (I can imagine this alleged being's followers thinking - "What do we do, do we teach godliness also and when, and how much, for if it were good enough for our leader - satan, then we must do likewise?")

    Once again, for evil to teach godliness for any purpose would only bring about its self contradiction and self destruction. i.e. a house divided against itself will soon collapse.
    (Not last thousands and thousands of years)

    i) Why would Paul or any Christian take or recommend any one to this evil Satan spirit being to learn how ' not ' to blaspheme?
    ii) How did they find it?
    (Isn't it supposed to be in Hell? - cf. Satan's seat - Rev. 2:13) KJV Story book)
    iii)
    How did they know it would agree to help Christians turn to god?
    iv) Why wouldn't Paul or any Christian seek this biblical god's help instead of going to get help from its alleged greatest adversary / enemy?
    v) Your alleged naughty spirit angel's assistants and followers (apparently? - Rev. 12:4 KJV Story book) surely must be confused and thinking to themselves, " eh! I thought the boss and us always went against this god? "
    vi) Besides a total self contradiction for itself, what did your naughty spirit being achieve for itself by helping others learn how not to blaspheme their god?
    vii) How did Hymenaeus and Alexander and the others that delivered them there survive in this Hell (Satan's Seat?) then safely return?


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    To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. (1 Cor. 5: 5) KJV Story book.

    So your alleged naughty Satan isn't that bad after all heh? teaching others not to blaspheme and here again even saving spirits / souls for Jesus? LOL!

    So far therefore, these examples confirm your Satan was in accordance with your god!

    Much much much much much much much better luck next times!

    I know why those like you keep shutting your mind down like a zombie to these Story book facts? (e.g.
    1, 2 & 3 above)

    Much much much much much much much better luck next times you sinner and hence Story book jesus' reject!

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    It's a fact the twelve apostles in their contemporary writings of the first century multiply attested they truly believed they saw Jesus alive from the dead in various group settings (talked with him, walked with him, touched him and ate with him) for which there is no naturalistic explanation, thus proving Jesus is God for only God can resurrect Himself from the grave. Amen.

    The approach that I take is called the Minimal Facts Approach because it draws from what most scholars concede that Paul truly believed and wrote 1 Cor. 15, Gal. 1 & 2 in which he states the gospel message, some of the resurrection appearances and that he spent 15 days with Peter (one of the 12 Apostles), and with John (one of the 12 Apostles) and James (brother of Jesus) on more than one occasion. Suffice it to say they talked about more than just the weather. Paul recounted the resurrection testimony from these Apostles.

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