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Judea and Galilee were two separate states and political entities, as illustrated on the map of Palestine in the time of our Saviour in the Bible. Jesus Himself was a Galilean or resident of Galilee (Matthew 26:69; John 7:41), and a Judahite or descendent of the Tribe of Judah. The Judeans of prominence were not of the Tribe of Judah, but of Edomites. Pilate was being ironic when he wrote the sign "Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Judeans" for the Cross (John 19:19). That is, "the Galilean who was King of the Judeans," as in "Queen Victoria of England, Empress of India." Jesus grew up in Nazareth in Galilee. His disciples were fishermen from the Sea of Galilee. And although He visited Jerusalem, he spent most of His life in his home country of Galilee. John 7:1, "After this Jesus stayed in Galilee; for He could not walk in Judea, because the Jews sought to kill him." His followers were constrained "for fear of the Jews" (John 7:13, 19:38, 20:19).

Psalm 83:3 says God's elect are "hidden" or protected ones, and that they are under attack from a coalition of evil groups led by Edom. Who was Edom?

Terrible judgements against Edom are made in most of the prophecies of the Old Testament. For instance, Isaiah 34, 63, Jeremiah 49, and the entire book of Obadiah.

We know that Saul was the first king of Israel and that John was the first man called Baptist, but who was the first Jew? Neither Adam, Seth or Noah are called Jew. Nor were Abraham, Isaac or Jacob. Moses was not called a Jew and neither were Saul, David or Solomon called Jew. In fact you will not find the word Jew in the first eleven books of the Bible. The first time Jews are mentioned in the Bible, is in II Kings 16:6 (and then only in translations revised in the eighteenth century) where we find Israel was at war with the Jews and drave the Jews from Elath. Jesus Christ tells John in Revelation 2:9 . We know that God changed the name of Abram to Abraham in Genesis 17:5, and that He changed the name of Jacob to Israel in Genesis 32:28, but nowhere in the Bible do we find where God changed the name of Israel to Jew! There is therefore no authority by which those who say they are Jews can claim to be Israel!

By the time of Jesus the word Edom or Edomite had been translated by Greek and Latin into Ioudaios and Iudaeus meaning a Judean or person living in Judea. The original King James version of the Bible, 1611, translated Idumaean-Judean into Iewes. It wasn't until the revised editions of the King James Bible, that the word Jew appeared. The word Jew does not mean Israel or Israelite!

The Talmud was originally compiled by the Edomites and Canaanites of whom our Lord spoke to in John 8

"If you were children of Abraham, you would do the works of Abraham. But now you seek to kill Me ... If God were your father, you would love Me ... Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to hear My Word. You are of your father the Diabolical One, and the lusts of your father you wish to do. That one was a murderer from the beginning, and he has not stood in the truth because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own, because he is a liar, and the father of it. ... He who is of God hears the words of God; for this reason you do not hear Me, because you are not of God."

http://judaism.about.com/od/jewishvi...sus_onegod.htm
The Talmud (first five books of the Bible) was written by Moses. During worship, when the Torah is moved to the high table and unrolled, the Rabbi reads the Hebrew words to the congregation. According to the Bible, Jesus did this very thing during synagogue service on at least one occasion (Luke 4:20-21). The Hebrew readings are done to this day.

The Tanakh (the Old Testament prophets, chronicles, proverbs, psalms and kings) were all written by Jews for Jews.
The New Testament (with the exception of the gospel of Luke and the Book of Acts) was written by Jews for Jews as a testimony of the work of redemption by God for His people in the person of Jesus Christ (Yeshuah Ha-Mashiah is His Jewish name).

Taken as a whole, the Bible is a testament of the fall and redemption of man. It is a statement of divine grace offered to men who embrace God's gift of salvation. The work of redemption was begun by G-d for His people the Jews and was enlarged to enrich all gentiles (non-Jews) who seek peace with G-d.

Grace is now available to all , not as an abolition of the law but in fulfillment of it.


There are 613 laws enumerated in the pages of the Old Testament. 603 of them are dietary and ceremonial in nature. According to the apostles of the New Testament, gentile believers are only required to obey 10 - called the Law of Moses. Jesus cut the number to two.

In addition, the Bible in its entirety clearly identifies the person and nature of Almighty G-d.

HE is a male Jew.

and that's me, hollering from the choir loft...