Was George Bush Right to Go to Iraq?

[Isaac]

Perhaps Bush WAS right to investigate Iraq, but at this point we've clearly worn out our welcome, and have proven that being there is a waste of time. Why we aren't dealing with Israel/Lebanon right now, God only knows.

[Faithful]

The way God operates is He punishes evil nations in due time. This is what is happening with all the killing and mayhem in Iraq incited by Islamic suicide mass-murderers and child sacrifices.

I would not be so quick to jump to the conclusion about the need or no need of USA to be in Iraq.

It is like servant who had received some money and squandered it. Now all will be taken away from him. After all is said and done, in a hundred years from now, the middle east will look much different to be sure as a consequence of what has begun today.

[bluethundr]

Let's get one thing straight. Iraq, however evil it may have been, was a SECULAR regime. It was the ONLY non-theocratic government in the Arab world. Sure, Saddam trotted out "Almighty Allah" whenever he felt he needed the support of the support of the Sunni (he was a Shi'a) Muslims.

But the Bath party was both Socialist, and again, secular. Did Saddam make overtures to Bin Laden? Quite possibly. But Bin Laden would never, never, never, never in a million years back the Socialist / Secular government of of Saddam. Al Qaeda considers Socialism and Secularism (as likely does the radical extremist Christian "soldiers" in this forum) to be evil.

So, how on EARTH was Iraq the right war? They had NO involvement in 9/11. If you wanted to go after those responsible, notice that the majority of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. The rest were from the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Lebanon.

The right war, in my opinion was Afghanistan. That's where the plot was hatched and masterminded, that's where the Taliban was based, that's where Bin Laden was. Now that we passed up our golden opportunity at Tora Bora with a botched military mission the bastard is holed up in the mountainous region of Waziristan (inside of Pakistan) and we very likely will never find him. Good going George!

Afghanistan was always undermanned and under-funded. If we had put the forces into Afghanistan that we put into Iraq, the Taliban would not, (as they are today) be poised to regain control of that lawless country.

Saddam was an evil man. But he did not attack us. We put a stop to his incursion into Kuwait (which, don't kid yourself, was for financial reasons) but Bush the senior did not push forward into Iraq for a reason: he realized it would become a quagmire which is exactly what happened.

Bin Laden is an evil man. We are right to bring him down, bring him to justice. But your arguments as to why the Islamic world hates us so much is specious. Jealousy? How simplistic! If only the world were that simple.

Bin Laden attacked us, not out of jealousy, but because we are occupying his 'holy land' (Saudi Arabia) with our military. To the Muslims, we are invaders and crusaders. Remember that in the Islamic world, the Crusades have never been forgiven.

The US is mystified that others can hate them so. But the US government supports regimes, such as Egypt that controls its Islamic population through rubber bullets, tear gas and water cannons. The US is seen by these people as the source of all of these arms that are used against them.

And who were we to go into Iraq anyway? What are we supposed to be? The cops of the world? If so, why are we not marching on ALL of the evil dictatorships of the world? Why have we not marched on North Korea? Oh that's right. They have nuclear weapons and a million man army. Same thing for China? What are we waiting for?

What, are we entitled to the oil in Iraq? Even if it was under the control of an evil, vile dictator? And I don't believe for a minute that he had WMD that were transported to Syria. Where's your proof?

And one last thing baffles me. How is it that the religious right supports war in any form. Isn't killing for any reason wrong? Didn't Jesus himself ask us to turn the other cheek?

You chastise Alexis for long posts. Maybe you should try following your own advice. And calling someone a "jerk"? How very, very Christian of you!

[Faithful]

You're confusing the reason for going into Iraq. The sole reason was not because of the problem of the Saudi Arabian 911 attacks. Satan is the author of confusion so don't confuse the two events. Saddam Hussein had to be stopped. He was a very bad man who killed millions of his own people with gas attacks. At some point the nations of the world might need to move against Iran as well because even Muslims admit its president is a crazy person who denied the holocaust and adamantly proclaims the annihilation of Israel and the death of every Jew.

I agree there is a jealousy. It is not outwardly proclaimed, but deep down inside Islamic peoples ask why their nations don't flourish as the West if they have the true faith. This jealousy is founded on a lie. The lie is that Jesus did not die on the cross in which some guy (Mohammed) in a cave all by himself made this up six centuries later without anything to support his idea. That is the foundation of the faith of Islam that you can make a claim about something without any supporting evidence and such becomes their way of being in a life of assuming to reject that God entered into His creation to atone for sins of mankind for eternal forgiveness and give eternal life.

I don't think US citizens are under any disillusionment why they are hated. They realize United States was the greatest nation in history. No nation has ever been so dominant economically globally.

The reason why entering Iraq was feasible was because it had the support of several nations to go in and stop Saddam who continued endlessly to violate UN agreed up demands. Enough was enough. United States can't be everywhere at once, but did have the resources to go into Iraq. You can't ask them to do everything even though there is much yet to do especially regarding North Korea, Iran, Syria and the evil dictatorships in Africa. As long as these are not democracies, the threat of nuclear war increases daily.

There are some key books written about how the weapons of mass destruction were transported to Syria in which Saddam to protect himself promptly moved them to avoid the inspectors in the rare times he let them in to his country. And obviously he had WMDs, for he used them against his own people. That is common knowledge.

Jesus did not say go to the Gentiles unarmed. If Hitler was not stopped, the world would be a much worse place today. Thank God the Christian nations stopped Hitler. It doesn't matter what they think about the Crusades, for you still have to do the right thing. The Crusades were wrong and done by non-Christians, but that does not change what must be done right today.

Notice, interestingly, Churchwork is just using the term Alexis uses "jerk" to place his own words back upon him when he said "using your own words". Alexis is not being chastised, but the truth of his mistaken assumptions are given to help him repent of his mistaken thinking.

I believe God wants United States to be in Iraq to influence a state change in mentality of the people of Iraq to stand up for democracy however long it takes or deemed necessary. The days of dictators is over! The battle in the world over the next century will be democracies against dictators! I am sharing this revelation of the Holy Spirit with you because it is what God wants you to accept.

Hope this helps.